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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] The vast majority of Muslims DO NOT HAVE CONCUBINES, EVEN IN WAR TIME. Thus, Muslims are like Christians in this regard. However, our Islamophobe poster said what people actually believe or do is irrelevant. She wanted to see proof in the scriptures that concubinage was prohibited. I'm showing here that it was neither explicitly prohibited in the Biblical or the Quranic scriptures. However, in the Quran it was indeed eradicated in stages by systematically raising the status of the concubine and / or her children and imposing restrictions on her and her children's treatment and care. Society has evolved, however. The good parts of Islam are many. I believe I've shown in this thread that Islam was the first religion to systematically eradicate concubinage. It's a start. I will continue to post more information about Islam in other threads.[/quote] You have not shown that Islam has systematically eradicated concubinage. What's your definition of systematically? The rulers of the Ottoman Empire, as recently as 19th century, were children of concubines. So as recently as 200 years ago, the empire was both procuring concubines and putting their loins to good use. I'd call that "taking my sweet time eradicating concubinage." But it's good that you conceded that it was not explicitly prohibited in the Quran. That should put an end to claims like "Islam bans slavery." Are you going to post a source for your prior claim that concubines were freed when they became pregnant? Or are you going to acknowledge that the freedom came, if it did, after the master's death? Yes, the good parts of Islam are many. Its stance on slavery, including sexual slavery - because that's what concubinage is, let's admit that no one got female slaves to knit sweaters - is not one of them. [/quote]
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