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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote] know I am going to be flamed by mamas who claim that their kids are gifted. Gifted in my opinion means a God-given intelligence, innate in you. Which also means that they will remain gifted even if they do not get into magnet schools. Furthermore, the process by which they are admitted to the center is not really measuring giftedness, because is there a test that can measure that? And could giftedness come in different flavors?

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Not to flame, but you've put forward some common misunderstandings.  There's no "extra gift from God" - the biology, brain chemistry, DNA et cetera - is all basically the same.  But that said, all kids are born along a spectrum with varying capabilities along that spectrum.  Some kids are able to process information faster than other kids.  Some kids are able to manage complex concepts and information in their heads than others.  Some kids have better memory than others.  Some kids are better at recognizing patterns than others.  Some kids are better at visualizing and transforming spatial objects in their heads. [b] There are a whole host of aspects to it - and many of the aspects of what is meaningful in areas like academics are in fact measurable and quantifiable via standardized tests like the Wechsler IQ tests[/b].  [/quote]

Well, in the end - nature and nurture both impact giftedness. If we measure these capabilities in newborns, we will find that the environment of the womb, the nutrition the mother had, the age of the parents - all these things also affect the child.

I agree that many of these capabilities are meaningful in areas of academics, but I also want to suggest that we have only one way of teaching in our schools. So many of these capabilities will not get a chance to be utilized in academics because the limitations of curriculum and the mechanics of how that curriculum is imparted.

I will say that quite a few  kids who get into HGC, are bright, get the nurture at home, get some coaching, and are plain lucky.  It is not all nature.  Nor is HGC admissions geared towards really measuring all of the varying capabilities that a kid might have. They are limited in that they are also measuring test taking skills  and brain chemistry at a given moment in time.

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