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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"What I don't get is what are 3rd graders in GT Montgomery County and Baltimore getting that a normal classroom isn't getting? I mean that seriously. What are they doing in math in 3rd grade? Is it just curriculum? Smaller classes? I'm just not convinced of the benefits."

I agree.  I don't think kids should be tested or selected for G&T during grade school.  [/quote]

Sorry, but this I really do not get.  Do kids magically start learning only in 9th grade?  Are AP classes a GT program?

I believe the point of GT (as opposed to accelerated learning for high performers) is to address asynchronous learning problems, where a child learns to hate a subject because it is worthless for far too long to ever become worthwhile again.  Asynchronous learning is at its highest during the grade school years.  In high school, there is a lot of leveling out, and the AP classes are fine.  If anything, GT high schools offer very little other than selective demographics.[/quote]

No, AP classes are not G&T and no, it seems you don't really get it - it's not about selective demographics and where there are some individual developmental differences that do level out within the first few years of school, there is also statistically a distribution of capabilities and potential that changes far less.  For example the kid that has tremendous math aptitude in grade school or middle school is not going to suddenly STOP learning - given the support, he is going to continue to progress rather than stopping while his peers catch up.[/quote]

PP here, yes, this is also inferred in my post.  I didn't say kids stop learning at 9th -- that would be moronic.

The thing is, the argument is always about not providing anything more than is currently offered, either because it is too expensive (ha!), or all kids needing more are just snowflakes whose parents exaggerate the kids' abilities.

Young children, far more than older children, are the ones who cannot fight for their own needs.  If material is not presented at the level they need, when they need it, then we have failed them.

Waiting until 9th is absurd.  The arguments for it make no sense whatsoever.[/quote]

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