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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Thank you! I too was a product of this type of environment. However, when I speak out about it on DCUM people think I'm an elitists or a racists. I speak out against the anti-intellectual and dysfunctional mentalities because I lived it and worked in it. My saving grace was attending Catholic school and relocating to another part of DC. My elementary school years were brutal and torturous. I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy.[/quote]

But you would wish them on the low-brow, low SES kids who would sully otherwise great ward 3 schools with their hopeless aims of a better education?

Becausae that's what we're talking about here.[/quote]

Not really.  What we're talking about is that the ward 3 schools can only serve as an escape for those kids if the percentage of OOB kids is kept low enough that the culture of the school is preserved.  Otherwise, all those OOB kids simply bring the very culture their are trying to escape with them to the ward 3 school.  [b]So far, the evidence suggests that 20% is the upper limit for ES, probably lower for MS.  [/quote][/b]

Deal has 23% FARMS and 30% OOB and is doing just fine.[/quote]

Well, the white students are at least.  96% are proficient or advanced in math and 95% are proficient or advanced in reading according to DCPS:

[url]http://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/405[/url]

For the black students, the numbers are 80% and 71%, respectively.

For the Hispanic students, the numbers are 76% and 69%.

But, of course, lumping the proficient and advanced students together is not such a great idea.  (DCPS seems to do this to mask achievement gaps.)

Let's consider only the advanced levels on the math an reading portions of the DC CAS at Deal:

For whites, the numbers are 73% and 58%,.

For blacks, the numbers are  28% and 20%.

For Hispanics, the numbers are 38% and 25%.

First, note how much larger the achievement gaps are when you only consider those scoring advanced.

Second, of the white kids at Deal, 23% are only proficient in math and 38% are only proficient in reading.

Scoring proficient on the DC CAS is nothing to write home about.  The test is very easy.  However, I suspect that little attention is being paid to these "proficient" kids at Deal.

Instead, the focus is on the 19% & 29% of the black kids, 24% & 32% of the Hispanic kids and 4% & 5% of white kids who did not even score proficient on the math & reading portions of the DC CAS.

To put it another way, 38% of the white kids at Deal probably can't deconstruct an argument in a Times or Post article.  I wouldn't call that "doing just fine."

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That is such a stupid analysis I don't even know where to begin. You have absolutely no idea what is going on inside the classroom there and are basing your entire analysis of a school on DC-CAS results. You also have unilaterally deemed that all of the proficient white kids are scoring at the bottom threshold of proficient rather than perhaps just missing advanced. In actuality, you have no idea where they fall. I could go on and on but I just don't have the time. I hope you have a good time finding a sufficiently successful school for your special snowflake.[/quote]

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