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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Speaking from experience as someone who has taught in California and also had my own children as students in that state, tenured teachers coasting to retirement are the very last people in a school that you need to worry about putting undo pressure on or destroying the fragile self esteem of students.

You who keeps blaming them is barking up the wrong tree without a doubt.[/quote]

[b]My friend, who has taught in CA for 20 years, begs to differ. She has sat on teams where they want to bring back ebonics and/or is told that she must grade improper English as correct because the bar must be lowered for these students.  She refuses. She gets kids pushed through the system (she teaches 6th grade), thrown at her, with a 'good luck with this one'. As she put it, she's just narcissistic enough to want to prove those teachers wrong. And she does EVERY time. By the time those kids leave her classroom, they are prepared for 7th grade - she has brought some up multiple grade levels simply by changing how she teaches those children. And she has large classes - no excuse, she says. I have personally sent her iPads and other tools when she can't get them from the district. She does a lot of tactile projects. She had one kid who thought he was a failure, was always in detention, etc.  Within two weeks she had pinpointed a suspected learning disability, set up testing, and had it confirmed. Kid went from failing to straight As. He was plenty smart - why didn't the other teachers notice or care?  Did the parents care? Yes. They were Asian and spoke very little English and had no idea what was going on. They were at a loss. The administration didn't reach out to them. The guidance counselor did not reach out to them. The school board did not reach out to them. My friend did.

[/b]And THAT'S how you fix a school. By keeping teachers like my friend and getting RID of those that aren't.

This year, she happens to have the student of a parent who is a very famous businessman. She had no idea until he contacted her after her 'welcome to my classroom, this is how I teach' letter. She caught his attention in very positive ways.  This should get good.[/quote]

Well, then your friend is not a tenured teacher skating to retirement.

Ask her about those.  I am sure she has many stories of this kind of teacher.

I have seen those teachers come to school, get their coffee, read their paper, take naps during class, and not give a single bit of classwork for the entire year.  I have seen the president of the teachers union come to school, pop in a movie (rated R in some cases, such as the movie Seven), every single day and call it a high school psychology class.  Both of those teachers were untouchable.  One got paid off by the district to take early retirement; the district looked the other way with the president of the teachers union, in spite of constant parent complaints.  I could go on and on.

There are many teachers in that state who are wonderful, dedicated professionals, but there are just as many tenured teachers who know they can't be fired, short of getting caught molesting a child.

Your friend is not the standard, she is the exception.

And if dcum parents are bitching about tenured teachers putting too much pressure on the kids, they really don't know what the hell they are talking about.[/quote]

And of course the irony is that these kinds of teachers are far more likely to be found in failing schools than in schools like Langley.

It is positively hilarious that this is even a topic of discussion. Teacher tenure is what leads to student stress? LMAO.[/quote]

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