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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Quotes got messed up - this was my reply:

I never said that. You know it. You are twisting it because you or someone else like yourself admitted that you feel the bar should be lowered because these kids can't be expected to get in on their own merit. I, on the other hand believe they can.

When you have people like yourself legislating on this belief, the net result is one group has to work much harder than another for the same benefit. And you think that's not stressful? How do you feel when one or two people on your team don't do their share of the work and you have to work overtime and weekends to make up for it. Pretty damn stressed, right?[/quote]

I absolutely do not think the bar should be lower for black and Hispanic kids.  I think they should be held to the same standards as whites and Asians.  I also don't think that white kids with lower scores than Asian kids should get in  over the more qualified Asian kid, which is happening more frequently now.  The kids in this area are more stressed about competing with their white and Asian peers, and about fulfilling their parents' expectations , than about whether a Hispanic  kid from Jeb Stuart will take their spot at their school of choice.  This victim mentality you are espousing is just as detrimental as the lower threshold that you are arguing against.  I most certainly will not be teaching my kids anything of that nature, and they will be better off for it.[/quote]

They don't see that. Those biases towards them are 'under the hood'. They don't understand why they are competing with each other for those coveted spots, that the reason is, is because of the politics of fairness.

There is no victim mentality. It's simply the truth. When kids find out that there are other factors at play, they are actually relieved because they realize that some of it is not in their control, and never was. They then begin to accept that these schools aren't 'all that' and that there are plenty of other schools out there for them that are wonderful. THAT is what relieves their stress.[/quote]

I hope you are as passionate about fairness for Asian students and as outspoken against legacies with lower scores.   I doubt either is true.  [/quote]

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