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[quote=Anonymous]Verbose PP, again -

Just as a follow-up, I would view this concept of God as the essence of being as almost the ultimate retreat in the face of science.

Early man had no understanding of how the world works, and, to paraphrase Clarke's Law, since any sufficiently complex system is indistinguishable from magic, early man invoked gods to explain where the world came from, how weather happened, etc.

Each assertion that some process was due to the actions of the supernatural has been explained by science to the point where science is pushing on explaining how our Universe (or our particular instance in the multiverse) came into being.

At each point, religion has said, "Well, ok, but you can't explain [xxx], therefore there MUST be a God." (which, in and of itself is a logical fallacy).

There may be some point at which science stops explaining how our universe works and throws up its collective hands and says, "We don't know and we don't think we'll EVER be able to explain it or comprehend it." But we aren't there, yet.

Or, at some point God may pop up and say, "Hey, I did this. Accept it."

But at this point, "God" has been pushed back to the point where religion says, "God is infinite and incomprehensible and not even part of our Universe. God is the 'essence of being'" - which is about as unchallengeable as it could possibly be. It's claiming some divine essence and some responsibility for the existence of the universe, but it has retreated from any actual claims of an interventionist deity that could be disproved by science.  [/quote]

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