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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is 2026. Why aren't more men doing it? [/quote]
Because many people still have common sense. Men are providers by nature. Household and children are the primary responsibilities of women. This type of lifestyle is closest to the human nature.[/quote]

whaaaaaaa? Voice from 1955. [/quote]

Name a society in history where men cared for the home and children, and women went out and procured the food and resources. [/quote]

Aka Pygmies are one example I can think of off the top of my head.[/quote]

If that's the best you can do, I think you're coming up short.[/quote]

You’re moving the goalposts. You said to name a single society in all of human history. Done.

But I’ll name a few more.

!Kung
Hadza
Trobriand Islanders 
Khasi 
Mosuo [/quote]
Perhaps it is societal conditioning, but it’s societal conditioning that has successfully built on top of existing human nature. Do you want to live in the society the !Kung or Trobriand Islanders built? Feel free to pack your bags and move to Papua New Guinea and live your best life. Find a man to take care of your home and children there. Let us know how that goes.[/quote]

Being a lesbian in the U.S. has worked fine for me. Oh, wait, are there western subcultures that aren’t interested in and don’t need male providers? Gasp.[/quote]
Lesbians are 1.4% of the population. Maybe we could visit the isle of Lesbos to see what a majority of women making the same choice as you looks like at scale! There are examples of societies where majority of women choose to be single mothers and let their men be shiftless at home to visit as well.[/quote]

So just to be clear, you agree that it’s not a universal truth that all cultures involve women being primary caregivers and men primarily providing economically? [/quote]
Yes, but I (a DP) conceded that from the beginning. Perhaps it is societal conditioning. But it is a societal conditioning that maps onto human nature successfully, which we all on this website live in and enjoy the fruits of while the poor women of Papua New Guinea toil in misery as the most r*ped women in the whole wide world.[/quote]

Ridiculous logic. The question was whether there was ANY society in HUMAN HISTORY that has males providing primary parental care. The answer is yes, and I provided MANY examples throughout human history of such societies. You have cited no evidence that men prioritizing their career over childcare is “human nature,” and that is contrary to the fact that there are many cultures and subcultures where men are primary caregivers or men are ignored entirely. There is no trade off such that a woman who wants a man to provide childcare must accept the entire environment of Papúa New Guinea as a result. And you know that, you’re just being obtuse because you want to insist that the evidence support you despite having cited nothing but your personal authority on “human nature.”[/quote]
I don’t have to cite what’s obvious to the naked eye that, outside of these highly obscure outlier cultures that, frankly, still live hand to mouth subsistence lifestyles, the way things play out for the majority of people is the way things are based on the way the majority of people are. Who’s being obtuse here?[/quote]

Nordic countries and lesbians in the DC area are just “such obscure outlier cultures.” I’m glad to know that I, a biglaw attorney, live a “hand to mouth subsistence lifestyle.” But maybe I’m just not human because I behave in a way that’s “contrary to human nature.”[/quote]

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