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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Someone has to pay for the millions of elderly, demented people to be hospitalized repeatedly to cure them from pneumonia and other illnesses despite the patients having no quality of life.  Someone has to pay for the 31% of the nation on government subsidized healthcare (Medicaid, Tricare, Medicare, VA care). [/quote]

You don't get to dictate quality of life for someone else. Let me guess, you're pro life? The elderly are still entitled to life if they want it. (That said, if they do not, I fully support physician-assisted suicide).

And as for subsidized HC, Dems have wanted this for  >10 years but R's whine about "socialism". This could all be solved with universal HC. That doesn't mean that will be perfect either but it would handle the cost issues.[/quote]

ANd things are far from perfect now, unless you have the funding to be concierge/etc.  (and then still not the best).  Arguments against UHC is "but you will wait months for care".  Well for the last 6+ years, that has been the case in most places in the USA.  It's a 5 month wait to see a neurologist, even if you have a need, but unless it's urgent (you had a stroke/etc) you will wait and just manage with your PCP.  Same for almost everything.  Try finding a new PCP/general practice doctor---it will be 6months+ in most areas if you are lucky to find one taking new patients and to get a first appointment.  We are already at "all the bad things that can happen" but we don't have "affordable healthcare"---instead we get to pay $1-2K+ per month for crappy coverage.

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