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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]The explosion in applications at top-tier schools is being fueled [i]way[/i] more by fee-waiver applicants than by full-pay students.[/b] In the last few years, the number of aid-seeking applicants at selective and highly-selective schools has grown at triple the rate of full pay applicants. Part of this is because the common app has made it easier to get fee waivers: In recent years, the number of students using fee waivers actually doubled. Meanwhile, application numbers from wealthier students are actually pretty flat, year over year. Similar when measured by in terms of applicants whose parents attended college. The data is pretty clear that your private school full-pay peers are not accounting for most of the increase numbers of applications at prestige-y schools. Rather, the vast majority of the upsurge in application numbers is from applicants who are fee-waiver eligible, first gen, and URM -- by a wide margin. See the common app annual reports for lots of data backing this up. [/quote] So apparently those schools giving away fee-waivers don't mind the influx of applications so what is the problem?[/quote] PP here. No problem on my end! I was responding to these folks: [quote]The merit/FA thing is sympathetic but I do t think that’s the driver.[/quote] [quote]Application numbers are out of control because of prestige chasers, merit chaser/very price conscious, & decision procrastinators [/quote] [quote]the major reason why students apply broadly is the uncertainty, not the FA. [/quote] These are not supported by the data. The data is actually pretty clear that the recent surge in application numbers isn't about "prestige chasing" by full-pay students. It's driven by those who need to compare financial offers, and made possible by reduced barriers to entry. For those interested, check out Michigan’s HAIL study, in which removing cost uncertainty tripled application rates among low-income students -- without changing admissions standards one iota. [/quote]
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