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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]One thing that hasn't been mentioned in the cost of childcare.It is much lower in European cities than in US cities. And maternity leave is also far more generous.[/quote]

My European friend says this kills womens’ careers in Europe. There is an expectation that European women will take 2-3 years of maternity leave per child. It is only equitable if men do the same.[/quote]

So now what, force men to do what women WANT to do?
 :shock: [/quote]

It's actually pretty normalized in several European countries, for meant to take lengthy paternity leaves in order to enable kids to be home with a parent for the first 12-18 months of life. Definitely pretty standard in Scandinavia, including Finland, where my family is from.

Men do want to do it and there are all these benefits that might be invisible to people who haven't done it. For instance, my observation is that taking these lengthy parental leaves and being home alone with kids helps a lot of dads create the foundation for better relationships with their kids, and also gives them confidence in their parenting ability that I don't see in men who are never home alone with their babies. It's crazy to me that in 2026 there are still men who feel weird about changing diapers, putting a kid down for a nap, knowing what to feed kids, etc., but I see it in the US. You don't see that in Finland. Men are confident and comfortable around babies. I think it also leads to more egalitarian marriages and makes it so much easier for women to continue working because they can trust that their partners will step up and co-parent and not leave it all to them. [/quote]

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