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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]The suggestions that teachers do a little self-advocacy comes from this claim that they suffer from bad teachers too. If thats false than cool, enjoy carrying your colleagues dead weight and stop telling parents not to advocate for their kids[/quote]

1. As a teacher, you are seldom in another teacher's classroom. You do not necessarily know what other teachers are doing.  If you have team meetings, you can get a sense of it.  As an elementary teacher, I knew if another teacher's class was rowdy--but that does not mean she is a poor teacher.
2. What, exactly, do you expect a teacher to do?

Do you work?
If so, do you complain about your co-workers to your boss?  Do you try to get them fired?
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I’ve already answered thus— I am the boss.  When people come to me with issues of colleagues not pulling their weight, its my job to solve those problems. Yes sometimes that means I fire a low performer, since low performers create the resentment and toxicity discussed above— that doesn’t mean the person who reported the issue is bad.  [/quote]

Then call the administration.  Don't blame the teachers.  The teachers are not in the other teacher's classroom.[/quote]

Teachers and administrators have a role in the solution.[b] If teachers want to work with parents to start holding other teachers accountable, their workplace will benefit.[/b] If teachers just want to complain about the mean unfair expectations on them to shoulder the burden of their slacking colleagues without doing anything about it they can expect more of the same.[/quote]

Oh, yes.  That will do wonders for the workplace environment.  I don't think you get it: teachers are not shouldering their slacking colleagues.  They may not even know if their colleagues are slacking.  They may hear things from students--but, that is not the same thing.
And, if for some reason, they are shouldering it, I guarantee you the administration knows.

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So the heroic teacher on this thread doing “tremendous” work to the detriment of her health and family because parents ask to switch their kids into her class...making it up? [/quote]

No, I’m not. My colleagues have smaller classes than I do because of parent requests. I grade more. I reach out to parents more. I have a bigger workload.

It isn’t fair… and it’s still NOT MY JOB to fix this. My job is to continue doing my job. Admin’s job is to fix this.

And all your bellyaching doesn’t change that. [b]Would your bosses like it if you started unilaterally doing their job?[/b][/quote]

If I failed to address low performers because I was afraid of someone being mad at me at the copy machine, my bosses would fire me.[/quote]

You clearly have no idea how a school functions. I’ve tried to explain it to you, but you willfully want to pin this on hardworking teachers.

Not ONCE have you said you would take the issue up with admin, the very people who are specifically tasked with teacher evaluation and teacher quality. We have very delineated roles for a reason in a school, reasons you cavalierly discard.

You’re debating from a place of arrogance and ignorance, which means we’ll get nowhere. I’m through. [/quote]

And you’re debating from a premise that teachers have no agency and no role in a solution to a problem you claim impacts them.  I hope you teach your students better logic. [/quote]

There is a bigger problem. The large possibility that there is not a teacher to replace the said “bad teacher”.[/quote]

According to FCPS this isn’t a problem.

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-schools-record-low-teacher-vacancy-rate-retention-major-results-fcps-attrition-compensation-contracts-special-education-international-licensure-substitute-apply-program-virginia-intent-to-return-pandemic[/quote]

Well, we know they’ve lied about this before.[/quote]

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