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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]America appears to be collapsing, and what I have noticed is that more developed and urbanized regions tend to vote democrat more, whilst more rural and un-developed regions tend to be more Republican. Why?[/quote]

Republicans are hate filled people.[/quote]

Americans are hate filled people.

My MIL doesn’t even know a single Republican personally, but she speaks of them as the evil, ignorant monsters. She says she’ll never stoop low enough to speak to one.

Hate is everywhere and people have lost the ability to respect others with differing  beliefs. They use hyperbole and stereotypes, sticking to the image of the monsters they’ve created.

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But republicans voted for Trump, which certainly makes them evil, ignorant monsters.  This isn’t a situation with two sides.  I’d be happy to see republicans fighting against Trump, I just don’t see any.  Feel free to post it.[/quote]

Such an infantile take. This is the reason why the division grows. Emotionally  and intellectually immature adults that are completely unaware of their ignorance. In fact they believe themselves to be the enlightened ones, when in fact they are what weighs a society down. [/quote]

I would be happy to listen to concerns of a MAGA voter--if they were rooted in the real world.  Say they are in an economically depressed area and they are worried about jobs, prices, etc.  I would be interested in those concerns.  I would be interested in real-world, feasible suggestions for addressing those concerns.  There are many problems to tackle and the best way to do it would be by thoughtful discussion and compromise.

But what am I supposed to do when they say hateful things to blame immigrants for ALL of their woes, that ALL immigrants are horrific criminals, that vaccines cause autism and therefore we should just get rid of all of them, that the 2020 election was stolen and the J6-ers are patriots, complete denial of any climate change or its effects, and on and on with the obvious lies and conspiracy theories they accept and parrot.  Am I expected to nod along? The endless hypocrisy where they accuse Democrats of doing things that THIS ADMINISTRATION is doing in plain sight?  The acceptance of outright corruption by this administration, not to mention the incompetence?  The cheering of the demonization and dismantling of the media, education, science, etc.  The demonization of anyone with an education and critical thinking skills? The cheering of dismantling of our democratic institutions, due process, deploying the military to cities when there is no actual emergency, etc.?

Exactly how much are we "mature" adults supposed to swallow?

When people have hateful views, spread lies, and say repugnant things about you, a person will have a dim view of those people.  This is a completely mature response based on the behavior in front of them.

Seriously, what in your infinitely emotionally and intellectually mature wisdom are you suggesting is going to bridge this gap when the GOP/MAGA side has been playing unfair, outright lying, and painting Democrats/liberals as the ENEMY since the time of Newt?  The Democrats did not destroy bipartisanship, call the other side the enemy, and paint compromise as weak; the GOP did. Until they stop and come to the table in good faith, nothing will change.   [/quote]

My MIL uses all of these talking points. She says she can’t speak to Republicans because they hate immigrants, hate LGBTQ+, hate science, etc. The problem is she doesn’t actually know any Republicans and probably hasn’t talked to one in a decade. She lives in a very small, very progressive bubble.

If she were to actually talk to someone, she would find out that they don’t actually believe these things. She’s constructed a view of people she doesn’t know, and she uses it to justify her anger toward them.

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Sorry, your votes are your revealed preference, friend. [/quote]

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