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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The only reason planned economic systems with collectivism as the fundamental matrix (what simpletons refer to as “communism”) hasn’t been 100% successful is that frankly, the right people haven’t been in charge.

Collectivism is THE ideal economic model. There is nothing more egalitarian than collective ownership of the means of production and no need for private property. This isn’t subject to debate.

But the right people haven’t been in charge. That is a failing of the people, not of collectivism. [/quote]

No, it's fully subject to debate and you don't know what the F you're talking about.

Central planning of economies is the death knell.  Communism and collectivism have never been successful anywhere they have been tried.

Command economies can't be properly planned because there is never enough data to properly distribute goods and services efficiently. It's impossible.

That leads to shortages, resources that go unused, unintended consequences, and demand destruction at a much faster rate than any westernized economy.

BTW, we haven't had Capitalism in the U.S. for one hundred years.

There's is nothing more efficient than the hidden hand of market economics.

'The pretend to pay us and we pretend to work." - Soviet Political Joke[/quote]

I love how you tell PP that he doesn't know what the F he is talking about and then proceed to spew a bunch of utter nonsense not supported by any historical account. [/quote]

I was the PP who wrote the post praising collectivism and planned economies and eliminating private property in favor of state ownership of everything, and “the only reason it hasn’t worked so far is the right people haven’t been in charge”.

I’m a troll. I was just putting the stupidest cliches I know of about communism down in one post, just to see if some idiot would agree with me - and of course someone did.

I need to dumb down my game for y’all. It’s pointless to be sarcastic when people start agreeing with you. [/quote]

Well, the idiot is you.

I've lived the communist experience with a leader in charge who was, yes, a dictator but a benevolent one. Things worked for a very long time and people still look back fondly on the years that he was in charge.

You think WAY too highly of yourself, the self-proclaimed troll. [/quote]

DP.

You were brainwashed, PP.  communism is evil to the core.

If you can’t see that and refuse to accept the truth, I suggest you seek out de-programming therapy from a mental health specialist.  [/quote]

Yeah, I'll take your very sound advice under consideration.  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

I grew up where all of our healthcare was of great quality and free. 
College was free.
Education was excellent and free for everyone.
If you had a job, you were given a place to live by your company. 
If you wanted to run a farm more power to you. 
The middle class was strong and the largest part of the population.
We took a month off every summer and vacationed at low cost.
People worked from 7-1 or 2 and had the rest of the day to spend with their families.

Sure, you couldn't really practice your religion or talk about the party. Most people couldn't care less about any of that.
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