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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I feel so horribly for the family of the swimmer at the center of this ridiculous fiasco.  Have you ever even considered putting yourself in their shoes?

They have a child who is likely struggling with their identity but also wants to swim.  I bet they just want the best for their kid and to help their child grow into a confident happy human who spends their time participating in activities that make them happy and grow their confidence at a time when they may be doubting an awful lot about themselves.

And then comes along a self-righteous, bigoted garbage human who feels that it is his right to publicly tear it all down.

You sir, are the worst kind of a$$hole there is.[/quote]

Then they should have taken that up with the powers that be to make sure it was ok to bend the rules in a sex segregated event where times mattered. It’s not a free for all based on the whims of a kid to decide who they are on a given day.[/quote]

Who are you to know whether they did?? It was the opposing team. They very well may have had a discussion with that teams coaches, that seems really likely. That is why self righteous egotistical jerks without all the information don’t need to come in, “scan” children’s bodies, make assumptions, and embarrass children in a mini meet that isn’t even a real competition. That is about pride and politics and nothing else. It was cruel and self centered. As others have said intersex is a medical condition. God forbid this child has that. And if gender dysphoria is what they are struggling with they deserve to be treated like a child and not shamed as well. It is not your place.

I am a new poster and like others Luis, I completely and unequivocally disagree with how you approached this. Under NO circumstances was this an appropriate response in front of a child. If you have an issue or a question of policy bring it up with the adults after the event. [/quote]

Doesn’t sound like they gave an alert to the participants that it was now a mixed gender event. Shouldn’t the participants know what kind of event they are participating in when they thought they signed up for segregated sex?[/quote]

What alert do you think was needed?  It hasn’t even been established that the kid was a boy. But neither Luis nor the posters on this forum had kids participating in the 8 and under event in question. Do you think they should have hired a sky writer?  Or just made sure to alert the most hateful marshal? [/quote]

It’s a bait and switch if you thought you had your kid signed up for a certain event and then it changed. It’s fine if you sign your kid up for co-ed sports but not ok to arbitrarily decide the sports are co-ed after the fact if that’s not what you paid for.[/quote]

If someone went to the league after this meet and asked for a refund because they were pulling their kid, I think the response would have been very different. When you don't get what you signed up for, getting your money back is a reasonable remedy. But if a restaurant is out of my preferred food, and I respond by speaking in a heated tone, using profanity, and writing on the menu posted in the window, I should not feel wronged when I am banned. [/quote]

Luis and his antics aside, just giving you chicken when you ordered fish is not a suitable substitution without letting you know first. Rules shouldn’t be bent on the fly for Luis or anyone. We all know what the rules are and conduct is one of them. Is everyone being held accountable or just Luis?[/quote]

There are a variety of reasonable responses if you ordered fish and [think you may have] got chicken. Cursing and writing on a paper that didn't belong to you are not among them. If you did that, the restaurant might reasonably ask you to leave and prohibit you from returning. Even if you were unusually affected by the potential swap (and there is no indication Luis was) there are ways to reduce the chances of it happening again or to be compensated for any harm that it caused you other than, say, chucking your plate on the floor and stalking off to the kitchen to yell at the expediter.[/quote]

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