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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Because some DCUM posters think nothing of paying more than 10K for travel sports and giving their kids repetitive strain injuries from a young age, but GOD FORBID that they be accused of being Tiger Parents and push their kids into improving their cognitive reasoning skills with MATH. Then they'd be like ASIAN ROBOTS (yes, they're racist too). [/quote] Like the FCPS Superintendent, SB, and Gatehouse, there is widespread hatred toward Asians on DCUM.[/quote] More fake news. [/quote] I don't know if it's hatred so much as annoyance and a bit of bitterness. Asians and other successful minorities are inconvenient to the narrative that white supremacy is so powerful in this country that non-whites don't stand a chance as a group. When a group of mostly immigrants and their children outperform whites, the argument starts to fray. White people are annoyed that these asians are able to outperform their little Larlo and Larla? THEY MUST BE CHEATING!!! Standardized exams (which have been used since at least WWII) are susceptible to a special form of cheating that only asians engage in. These crafty asians send their kids to academic enrichment classes like kumon, AOPS and RSM from the age of 7 or 8 and continue to cheat for the rest of their educational years by studying more than everybody else.[/quote] No one said that studying is cheating. More fake news from RWNJs trying to spin up division. [/quote] The more you try to bulldoze yourself and shut people up, the more you prove the point that there is a movement against math. [/quote] You are a liar trying to spin up a manufactured political issue. GTFO. [/quote] I say this with a lot of compassion: you need serious help. Your emotional state is obviously on the edge. [/quote] I have zero patience for people trying to F with our schools, particular RWNJs who are trying to score political points. [/quote] The only nut job here is you. If you don’t want the schools messed with work on it constructively. You obviously like them to not improve. It must benefit you in some way. [/quote] More fake news. The only thing I don't want are POS political operatives spinning up wedge issues with lies and fake issues. We get it. Rs are going to lose big time in November. These pathetic threads aren't going to help. [/quote] He's not "spinning up" wedge issues. These issues are already there, the left ignores them at their peril. Asians moved 10 points to the right. 30% voted for trump in 2020 and 40% did so in 2024. Listed high on the reasons for the shift were: The economy Public Safety Affirmative Action (or more precisely the reaction to the opposition to AA labelling asians as ‘privileged,’ ‘selfish,’ ‘cheaters,’ ‘overrepresented,’ ‘white adjacent,’ and ‘resource hoarders’ ) The economic and safety issues are probably the most important because really who gives a fck what some asians in san francisco and farifax think.[/quote] “There is a movement against math” is pure propaganda BS. [/quote] +1 Never heard that there is any movement againts math or anything academic. People can accelerate their kids all they want. No law ever created that can’t stop them to enrich their kids academically. If there is no acceleration available that is not because of a political movement, it is simply because there is no resource available. The public education service tend to prioritize the needs of the middle bell curve, the 95% population. The truth is, nobody care about your feelings about math, whether you glorify it or despise it. If you heard one, it is called personal opinion. But I feel like there is a movement to create an impression that Asian is under attack, this is actually the propaganda to swing the vote and somehow it works. And I am an Asian.[/quote] The attack isn't against Asians it's against what we represent. The traditional right wing racists don't like how Asians show up and grab all the lions share of academic recognition that used to go to more mediocre white kids. They feel like their communities are being gentrified as Asians move in and big up housing prices while the kids crowd out white kids from the AAP program. The DEI left wing racist don't like how people use Asian success to imply that URM are lazy or inferior (the model minority my) and they begrudge us or success by taking the things we earn and giving it to those they think deserve a break. Then they call us racists for not going along with it. They would both like us a lot more if we didn't succeed. [/quote] Please don’t hijack the thread with how Asians are victimized. This thread is supposed to be about advancing in Math, not about what Asians represent. Open your own thread for that. [/quote] That's funny. You didn't seem to object to the post I am responding that brought up how this all just a misinformation campaign to influence Asian votes. The war against math is part of the war against merit which is repulsive to most Asians. [/quote] If you're Asian and you haven't figured out of yet, you are stuck with a choice between (I) Republicans that will hurt your feelings by saying they don't like you (II) Democrats that will hurt your children's future but will say they like you [/quote] We've had a Republican president and Congress for several years now, and there have been 0 benefits to merit / math / gifted education. Same with Youngkin - he hasn't done anything to change educational policies on these issues.[/quote] I know it's feels like years but it's only been 6 months. Republicans applauded SFFA vs Harvard. Democrats condemned it. Republican condemned the changes in the TJ and Lowell admissions process and the attempts to change the Stuyvesant admissions process. These changes were part of a nationwide democratic led war on merit. Republicans may not have Asians at front of mind but their not actively trying to hurt our children.[/quote] The only republicans responsible for SFFA are on the SC. Condemning something is easy, making things happen is expensive. Promoting or building merit programs is not on the agenda, only scoring cheap shots against the left whenever possible.[/quote]. It's not a cheap spot, it's a valid criticism. What merit building program hills are the Democrats willing to die on the way they were willing to die on the affirmative action hill? To paraphrase RBG: I ask no favor for my race. All I ask of our woke brethren is that they take their feet off our necks Equal rights, not special rights. [/quote] No. You do not get to quote RGB as if you are being oppressed. GMAFB. [/quote] Open and notorious legality condoned institutional racial discrimination against a group was oppression. Continuing to do it when it's no longer legal is just racism. Asians are not asking for special rights. They are asking for equal rights, equal opportunity. That's what affirmative action USED to be about. But there was this assumption that equal opportunity would lead to equal results and it didn't. So then affirmative action started to become less about equal opportunity and more about equal results. And THAT is where we started to run into problems.[/quote] TJ admissions is mostly equal opportunity. If anything, Asian students have *above average* opportunity. Particularly those from wealthy families in the feeder schools. It’s a race blind process. The majority of students enrolled are Asian students. Asian students are admitted at a higher than average rate. Some groups can claim oppression or lack of equal opportunity - and wealthy Asian students are NOT on that list. [/quote] We were talking about SFFA vs Harvard. That means we were talking about affirmative action. When people talk about systemic racism, affirmative action meets all the criteria except it discriminates against asians instead of URM When people talk about institutional racism, affirmative action meets all the criteria except it discriminates against asians instead of URM. TJ is not engaging in explicit affirmative action but when you change a policy to increase some races at the expense of other races you are engaging in racism. Anti-asian discrimination has a long and silent history in America. Pick up a book sometime. The entire reason we even have birthright citizenship caselaw is because of our history of anti-asian discrimination P.S. Exceeding the qualification for free/reduced lunch does not make you wealthy. These parents all work for a living. This attempt to excuse racism against asians at TJ by portraying all the asians at TJ as wealthy is pretty scummy. You are scum.[/quote] Again, at TJ, Asian students have *above average* opportunity. Particularly those from wealthy families in the feeder schools. Asian students are admitted at a higher than average rate. Kids from wealthy feeder schools are admitted at a higher than average rate. Some groups can claim oppression or lack of equal opportunity - and wealthy Asian students are NOT on that list. TJ added seats to give kids from across the county a chance to attend so it’s no longer hoarded by kids from wealthy feeder schools. [/quote] Asians are overrepresented because they have higher cognitive ability. They weren't born that way, they became that way. They're the ones that put in the work. They're the ones that made the sacrifices. Discriminating against them because of their race is racism. You are not only excusing racism, you are advocating for it. TJ provides no value to a kid who is not well prepared regardless of their income. TJ isn't an anti poverty program. [/quote] [b]There is no discrimination against Asian students in the TJ admissions process[/b]. GMAFB. :roll: Asian students are admitted at a higher-than-average rate. [/quote] Diversity chart based admissions but claim no discrimination. [/quote] It’s a race-blind process. Asian students are admitted at a higher-than-average rate. There is no discrimination against Asian students in the TJ admissions process. [/quote] Literacy tests, grandfather laws, poll taxes and voter ID laws are also all race blind. A process can be race blind and still be deeply racist. [/quote] This one isn’t. Asian students are admitted at a higher-than-average rate. It’s really disgusting that you’re trying to compare to actual cases of discrimination. [/quote] When you discriminate based on race, then it's racial discrimination. You can be over-represented and discriminated against at the same time.[/quote]
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