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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Let’s be real, cheap labor has always played a big role in how countries industrialize. Capitalism kind of runs on it. All the major economies we know today got to where they are by relying on low-cost labor, and honestly, they still do. If you want to survive in a competitive capitalist system, you need access to cheap labor. If it’s not available at home, businesses usually turn to outsourcing and find it elsewhere. That’s just how the global economy works. It’s not exactly fair, and yeah, it can be pretty messed up. But it’s the reality we live in. Capitalism tends to go hand-in-hand with inequality and some level of labor exploitation. It’s not ideal, but it’s part of the system. [/quote] So, you're saying if we implement tariffs, globalist capitalism will go away and take their money with them, and we'll be left with a fairer more equitable economic system? Long live Trump and his tariffs! Lets' do it![/quote] Look, when globalist capitalism pulls out and takes the money with it, our economy is going to take a serious hit. We’ll end up poorer. Our standard of living will drop. Maybe the system will be more equitable, but being equitable is not the same as being prosperous. Fairer and more equitable systems like Socialism struggle to create real wealth or long-term prosperity. History has shown. Capitalism isn’t perfect, it’s got plenty of issues. But at the end of the day, it’s still the best system for driving progress and lifting people up economically. You can’t win in capitalism without exploitable cheap labor.[/quote] By your own metrics some large number of people shouldn't see capitalism as beneficial. Let's be real here. I personally try to remove Google, Apple, Facebook, Netflix and Tesla from the companies I use. They could all ride off into the sunset for all I care.[/quote] You got it wrong. it's the opposite. People should see capitalism as beneficial. It has its flaws but it's the best. Capitalism would fail without the big corporations. You are trying to ditch big tech companies? You sound ridiculous because you are here enjoying an internet forum that wouldn't exist without those tech companies that you despise so much. If you are serious about what you just said, you should cut off your internet connection and go back to the dark age. [/quote] I had internet net before those companies; it was better then. [/quote] Haha. No, it wasn't. I have a love/hate relationship with the internet, but it was not better before Google, Netflix, Apple. You sound like my old FIL who lamented how computers were taking over typewriters. - 54 yr old in tech.[/quote] Ironic that you say it wasn't better while spending time on an archaic platform life this discussion forum...which were much more common 20-30 years ago than now. Netfix is crap. Apple hasn't created a decent new tech product in over a decade now. [/quote]
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