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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No, resist! That's not the law. The government has the burden of proof. [/quote]

You’re not a POC, are you? [/quote]

NP. I am a “POC” (I hate this term) lawyer and I agree with this in principle. But I’m not scared of being “disappeared” or walking around in general. I live in NYC and walk around all the time without a wallet (including ID), and have no plans of changing this.

People are being hysterical. Many years ago I studied abroad in Russia, which is actually a country where authorities can and will stop foreign-looking people (or anyone) and ask for your papers. This is not anything even remotely close to that. [/quote]

I’m not crazy about the term either — but I do recognize that some of us are treated differently vs others, especially by law enforcement, and that can make a difference in terms of both safety, and the likelihood that “the law” and those enforcing it will be at least somewhat neutral, or even somewhat protective. Perhaps being a lawyer yourself gives you some sense of protection as well?

When I lived in NYC, I, too, walked around without ID, as I have throughout my life in DC.  The current Trump/Miller/ICE administration has changed that for me.  I don’t expect a piece of paper to necessarily save me, but it’s truly not hysterical to understand that police and ICE may treat me very differently from the way they’d treat someone white,  blonde, and apparently the right kind of American. I’m old enough to remember what happened to the now-exonerated Central Park Five — thanks in large part to the EO happy guy in the White House.

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Why do you guys think white people are somehow safe from all of this? Yes Trump is racist but he also hates any white person who isn’t MAGA. He has threatened Gavin Newsom as well and he is white and a powerful elected official. Nobody is safe.

“German Teens Say They Were Strip-Searched and Imprisoned After Landing in Hawaii for Graduation Trip”

https://people.com/german-teens-detained-hawaii-during-post-graduation-trip-11719907[/quote]

I haven’t said that white people are “safe” from this. I am saying that the chances of someone getting pulled over by cops or encountering ICE in the first place are higher for at least some POC right now than they are for most white people.  I’m not going to do the math, but please tell me roughly how many white people have been “detained” vs how many POC have been “detained” during the past 5 months since Trump’s inauguration.

Key in what I just wrote are the words “right now”. 
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