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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This black-and-white thinking is so MAGA. Can't make it perfect, so no choice but to let the status quo run to its worst impulses. All or nothing. Free rein for police bullies, or no police at all.

Where's the nuance? Where's the interest in incremental improvement? Are you that incapable of critical thought? [/quote]

Please explain to us the nuance in the Democrat platform plank:  abolish ICE.[/quote]

I've never heard a democrat make a move to abolish ICE. I hear calls for due process, which are rejected out of hand by trump toadies. I hear pleas for compassion and decency in the face of human suffering, which get sneers and actual laughs from MAGA. I hear proposals that get shot down with wild edgecase thinking, no research or testing needed.

Why won't the right TRY anything new?? Why is the default position to dehumanize vulnerable people? Case in point, walking to Whole Foods on P St the other day with my kids. 
Cops have a man in cuffs. 
Their cruiser is in an alley, but really parked directly across the sidewalk. 
The man is slumped against the cruiser, obviously dehydrated, not obviously inebriated, or raving, or fighting. Just restrained and passive. I only have field medical training, but it was clear as could be that the man needed IV fluids.
And the four cops were standing around joking with each other, ignoring him, forcing pedestrians to walk into the street, with a man on display and suffering. They were still there, still joshing around, still blocking the sidewalk, when we walked back 20 or so minutes later. But now they had smoothies.

If they had probable cause, why hadn't they taken him in for processing? Why hadn't they put him in the car, at least? Why didn't they move the car back 10 feet to clear the sidewalk? There was nothing behind it in the alley.

I see this kind of thing ALL THE TIME. Casual low-level cruelty and arrogance when so many other avenues are open.

All pedantry aside, this is why I dislike law enforcement. [/quote]

How do you diagnose dehydration from 10 feet in the few seconds it took to pass the alley? Maybe the person wasn’t drunk. Perhaps he exposed himself to kids like yours. None of us will ever know. The man in cuffs could have asked for a supervisor. That’s the new Google U law degree tactic for people in handcuffs. I’m certain police officers don’t carry IV fluids. Maybe they didn’t put him in the car because he deficated on himself.[/quote]

This is why I dislike law enforcement. I'm not going to respond to your sea lioning because I know what I saw, and you weren't there, and I see it ALL THE TIME. And having people like you here to make endless knee-jerk excuses for them, even when you know nothing of the facts of a case, will ensure that nothing ever gets better, that vulnerable people continue to face heightened risk at the hands of LE. They know you have their back, whether they shoot a sleeping man in his bed, or kneel on a guy's neck til he suffocates, or beat a kid bloody for swiping a bag of chips.

Why can't we expect them to do their job-- enforce laws-- with any measure of proportionality? Because they, and people like you, like cruelty. You see it as people beneath you getting what they deserve, a reassertion of your rightful place in the hierarchy, and also as entertainment. You have no compassion, no larger sense of human rights.

I think a lot about that New York Times reporter who died, here in DC, of a head injury, because he was found disoriented after having been attacked and the cops just laughed him off as drunk John Doe. Aggressive bully cops maim and kill people. Arrogant, uncaring cops let people die. That is why I dislike cops. [/quote]

Explain the facts of the man’s case that was in cuffs. What you saw was viewed through a biased lens. You don’t like police. That’s your right. What you are incapable of is diagnosing dehydration at a glance or knowing anything about the circumstances surrounding the man in cuffs. It’s all assumptions.[/quote]

I'm actually really good at it. I worked in humanitarian assistance in Africa and the Middle East for several years, and saw it a lot. The newly arrived HAWs are bad at keeping up with their hydration needs.

But that's beside the point. The point is that I saw someone in nonspecific distress, and that distress was being caused-- or at the very least unalleviated-- by police officers, who were having a high old time drinking smoothies, forcing pedestrians into the street, and ignoring the man wheezing and listing on the ground next to their car. And I see this frequently. Keeping detainees on display rather than moving along with the process. I'm sure in your mind each and every one of those cases has an ironclad reason for doing so. But that's because you lack compassion, and also imagination for how it could be better. The status quo is working for you, so fcuk everyone else. [/quote]

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