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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This black-and-white thinking is so MAGA. Can't make it perfect, so no choice but to let the status quo run to its worst impulses. All or nothing. Free rein for police bullies, or no police at all.

Where's the nuance? Where's the interest in incremental improvement? Are you that incapable of critical thought? [/quote]

Please explain to us the nuance in the Democrat platform plank:  abolish ICE.[/quote]

I've never heard a democrat make a move to abolish ICE. I hear calls for due process, which are rejected out of hand by trump toadies. I hear pleas for compassion and decency in the face of human suffering, which get sneers and actual laughs from MAGA. I hear proposals that get shot down with wild edgecase thinking, no research or testing needed.

Why won't the right TRY anything new?? Why is the default position to dehumanize vulnerable people? Case in point, walking to Whole Foods on P St the other day with my kids. 
Cops have a man in cuffs. 
Their cruiser is in an alley, but really parked directly across the sidewalk. 
The man is slumped against the cruiser, obviously dehydrated, not obviously inebriated, or raving, or fighting. Just restrained and passive. I only have field medical training, but it was clear as could be that the man needed IV fluids.
And the four cops were standing around joking with each other, ignoring him, forcing pedestrians to walk into the street, with a man on display and suffering. They were still there, still joshing around, still blocking the sidewalk, when we walked back 20 or so minutes later. But now they had smoothies.

If they had probable cause, why hadn't they taken him in for processing? Why hadn't they put him in the car, at least? Why didn't they move the car back 10 feet to clear the sidewalk? There was nothing behind it in the alley.

I see this kind of thing ALL THE TIME. Casual low-level cruelty and arrogance when so many other avenues are open.

All pedantry aside, this is why I dislike law enforcement. [/quote]

How do you diagnose dehydration from 10 feet in the few seconds it took to pass the alley? Maybe the person wasn’t drunk. Perhaps he exposed himself to kids like yours. None of us will ever know. The man in cuffs could have asked for a supervisor. That’s the new Google U law degree tactic for people in handcuffs. I’m certain police officers don’t carry IV fluids. Maybe they didn’t put him in the car because he deficated on himself.[/quote]

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