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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So I guess we have thought police now?[/quote]

Can you affirmatively state your position?

1.  Do you believe that a green card holder who leads the take over of university buildings and disrupts education for thousands of people should not face the maximum consequences for his actions?

2.  Do you believe that a visa holder who attends the funeral of a high level Hamas leader and who also expresses sympathy for Hamas on a religious level should be allowed reentry into the country?

3.  Do you believe that people with close family ties to Hamas leadership cannot be excluded from the country?

This is just so wild to me that people seem to sincerely believe that the government cannot have ideological reasons for excluding noncitizens.

Let’s flip this around:  do you believe that other countries should be required to admit Candace Owens or Richard Spencer as foreigners? [/quote]

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

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Is your argument that the United States constitution requires the government to be content neutral when it comes to the speech and associations of foreigners on visas?   That has never been the law of this country and you are way out on an island if that’s your argument.  Your position also destroys thousands of years of understanding of national sovereignty.  Your position is rejected by every country on the planet.

Your first amendment argument doesn’t address the issue of the grad student taking over university buildings. [/quote]
DP, but if the issue were taking over university buildings, then charge him with a crime and use that. People who are already here enjoy first amendment rights.[/quote]

Why make him a burden on the taxpayers?  That is just dumb. Revoke his status through the alien enemies act and make him someone else’s problem.   Hell, I bet he’d voluntarily relinquish his green card instead of face trial and jail time. [/quote]

The Alien Enemies Act would not apply in this situation, and Trump's use of it has already run into trouble, including with a Trump-appointed judge. There is caselaw to back up 1st Amendment rights of lawfully admitted aliens, especially those who have established significant presence in the US. And in the past, policy has been to hold aliens like green card holders accountable for crimes and in the case of felonies deport them after serving their sentence in US prisons.  Here, otoh, under Trump felonies are just fine and can get you an ambassadorship, as long as you're on his side.

I have to think at some point SCOTUS may need to rethink its decision that a President's motives cannot be considered when weighing the culpability of his actions as President. [/quote]

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