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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There was an old thread on here - but was locked or deleted - on a TJ kid whose profile was reviewed on a podcast - former Yale AO I think.

Eye-opening how brutal the process is.[/quote]

think it was this one. You can see why the TJ kid had a mediocre unconnected application, notwithstanding top stats:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-9A4eyDoG8[/quote]

Does anyone else think the entire process is a load of BS?  [/quote]

In what way? The whole "tell us a story", make yourself compelling, tie everything together and be memorable?

Or something else?[/quote]

NP.  It sounds like they want the TJ kid to have the equivalent of a math Ph.d before applying to university. They don't seem to understand much about economics or math, and then focus on whether the written statements make them smile.  I worked as an economist and a huge percentage of my colleagues were engineering, physics, chemistry and math majors who switched to economics as post grads. They never even considered econ in high school.

The AOs seem to enjoy the power they have as AOs. A lot of the ones we encountered when touring colleges majored in subjects that didn't allow them to make big money elsewhere, and being an AO gave them some status

Can you apply to college and say you're interested in anthropology or actuarial accounting when these things aren't even subjects in high school? Can you say you want to explore new subjects and discover your life's purpose without already's having undertaken post grad level research in these subjects as a 17 year old.

I'm not surprised that another poster's high scoring kid is going to the UK.[/quote]

But in holistic admissions, scores aren't actually the end all be all. They know the kids can succeed and do that work. That's not the point of this process in determining whether to admit a student.

There is a standard they expect from a TJ kid (they say that - they are expecting research and use of the additional info section. They say they expect the same from Andover and Exeter). Imo they couldn't see what excites that kid beyond the math in the personal statement. it wasn't clear how that excitement translated at Yale and only Yale. Top colleges want kids who are excited and moved and passionate about something AND how they see their passion connecting on campus.

The TJ kid didn't realize the defining feature of Yale's curriculum....(why they want to study math in a liberal arts context). Also why did they choose economics?

Yale's Mathematics department is looking for pure mathematical talent, which this student clearly possesses, but the Economics department may have been looking for different experiences that weren't as strongly represented in their application (I think the primary major they applied to was "Economics and Mathematics" which is the problem - it wasn't Mathematics or Applied Mathematics. A more strategic approach would have been applying as a Mathematics major with Statistics as a secondary interest.

If it was my kid, I would have made sure they integrated how math is a true humanities discipline and a critical part of educating the whole person (could also tie into long term goal as an educator). Perhaps connecting to philosophy (minor in phil?) Did the application mention the Yale Education Studies certificate? If not, that was a miss. For yale, its important to frame mathematics educations as a social justice issue.
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