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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's always so interesting how these BASIS threads go. Every thread brings out a cohort of posters who cannot stop themselves from maligning the school. Some people have legit complaints based on actual experiences and facts (and you can tell who they are) but many have no idea what they're talking about and simply accuse others of being boosters when they get called out. Of all the problems this city has with education, it's unbelievable how much energy people seem to spend dumping on this school. [/quote] Honestly, I know two different families whose kids (three in total) didn't make it through (one did) and they were so hurt by the whole thing... they went in as happy, curious pro-school kids, and came out anxious and hating school. For the kids who work, it works and they're happy, but statistically it doesn't work for most kids... and for taxpayer dollars to go and support that kind of record, just to line the pockets of investors... yeah it really pisses me off. Does DCPS have problems? yeah! big time! is Basis the answer? only for a small number of those who try it![/quote] Look at the test scores. BASIS *trounces* almost every non-private school in the city. You should be pissed off at these schools that churn out graduates who can't even read. https://www.empowerk12.org/public-dashboards [/quote] Look at the number of kids who go into basis and look how many graduate! That fraction of kids who makes it through the whole school would almost certainly be high scoring at any high school. I don’t like low scores anywhere but siphoning tax dollars into a for profit system that fails the vast majority of students isn’t the solution. I’m not anti charter school - pitch me some good non dcps ideas and I’ll bite. Basis ain’t it tho. [/quote] Eh, sounds like you just hate charters. Parents send their kids to BASIS because DCPS is synonymous with low standards. Challenging smart kids is literally the last thing DCPS is worried about. If you're worried about tax dollars (and I'm pretty sure you actually aren't), you should ask yourself how taxpayers can fund DCPS so well that even elementary school gym teachers make six figure salaries and yet DCPS test scores are worse than Mississippi's. Taxpayers spend an awful lot of public schools in this city and get very little in return. [/quote] You don't have to be anti-charter to see that the BASIS business model isn't built to support the 'whole child' and to find that deeply problematic when there could be more funds available locally if they weren't going towards BASIS Ed and when the business model presupposes that parents contributed $300,000 through direct contributions or fees for lock-ins/dances in order to pay the teachers. [/quote] I don't know what this word salad is supposed to say but BASIS gets a lot fewer tax dollars than public schools and yet gets far better results. [/quote] A lot better results for a narrow number of kids - most kids who start there don’t get the good results. Look, if you have one of the narrow band of kids who excels in that environment, great… but why should my tax dollars pay for it? Finding alternatives to main stream public school is fine with me, since I think we can all agree that dcps version is not working for most kids in the city, but an alternative that only works for a fraction of the kids who try it shouldn’t be the answer. Even if it was a niche learning environment but the vast majority of kids who try it succeed, I could be okay with it. But basis really feels like a way for parents who really want to send their kids to a rigorous private but want someone else to pay. Publicly financed education is about getting the best results for the most number of kids, dcps doesn’t do that, but neither does basis. [/quote] Do we have to close Banneker too if some kids decide it's too hard? Do you have the same policy for Duke Ellington, if some kids enroll but decide later they want to be engineers and not actors? What about our many bilingual schools? They lose an *enormous* number of kids. By your weird standard, I guess they'd have to go too. [/quote] Not closed, but restructured or reorganized or whatever. And yeah, if Duke Ellington stops serving most of the kids that get sent there, it should be retooled or shut. We shouldn't be using tax dollars to support education that doesn't work for most people. [/quote] ok crazy pants, but there are literally dozens of elementary schools in this city where fewer than 10 percent of the students meet or exceed CAPE standards in math. how about we focus on fixing the garbage schools instead of tearing down the ones the excellent ones. [/quote] How many students start at BASIS and how many graduate? That's the percentage I'm concerned about. If we looked at that troubled elementary schools and said "actually it's a success if you look at those 10 percent who meet or exceed CAPE... if you send the other 90 percent somewhere else" they'd look a lot better. [/quote]
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