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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why do private colleges are now accountable and private schools not? Are they sacred cows?. What is the legal basis to treat two private entities differently? Is it ok to be race neutral in college admissions and not neutral in school admissions ?

Troll if you want but it will say a lot if you don’t provide a logical argument. [/quote]

This might be news to you, but private entities that do not receive any govt funds, can discriminate all day long. Maybe they won’t do it because it’s not great PR but it certainly ain’t illegal. [/quote]

Otherwise, all-boys and all-girls schools would also not be legal.[/quote]

Your example is like saying that there are bathrooms for men and women, and hence you cannot complain about a man getting into a women’s bathroom. I agree with yet polciy.

Now more specifically, I also agree with all boys and girls schools. The advantage of the admission process in those schools is that it’s spelled out very explicitly the type of kids they admit; boy or girls plus additional characteristics. That’s very positive.

Now for co-ed school it would be nice to spell out very explicitly what is the criteria for admiission. Not mentioning here a formula or tests scores like many people interpret.

The underlying issue here is that the admission commute is trying to admit a portfolio of people with specific characteristics: wealth, talent, race, and gender. [b]And the criteria is not fully disclosed. Many people are left out what was missing. [/b]

I would find more palatable a school that explicitly says that they admit rich families because we want mega donors.

Nothing against that. It’s just somehow that they do it but somehow pretend to be inclusive schools.

Don’t want to be too political. But I find similar to Trump that proposed tax cuts saying that  they will benefit their base. There is some disconnect between the announced policies and the actual objectives. 
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Do well on your ISEE, SSAT, or HSPT  if required, have good grades, get strong letters of recommendation, interview well (practice, practice, practice), write strong and creative essays that reveal your personality. Show an ability to get along with others, leadership or harmony, intellectual vitality, demonstrated commitment to the community, and talent in non-academic domains. This is what I understood to be the factors the schools are looking for. If you have a kindergartener rather than an upper schooler, then the scrutiny is partially on you as parents and not as much on the kid. [/quote]

Agree. But also that should be disclosed. I don’t see anything wrong with that as long as is fully transparent. [/quote]

The above seemed pretty transparent to me when my DC applied. We didn’t have a consultant or anything. Came from public school and we don’t have the money for that. However, it’s quite possible you can do all of the above and still get rejected because someone else’s kid did was deemed to be a better fit. I’ll give you an example from our own experience with private admissions. My kid checked some of the boxes very strongly: Straight A’s, all 9’s on ISEE, multiple national level achievements in their talent area, fair essays. But no leadership, no sports, was painfully nervous and shy in interview, mid-level community service bc too busy with their activity, but a very sweet kid and gets along with others so I am guessing recommenders said that. Friends’ kid applied to one of the same schools, his top choice, and got rejected but my DC accepted. This other kid had more leadership, more community service, also a good student, and super talented in multiple sports, and very outgoing. I’m guessing test scores and essays also good. Parents were naturally upset with rejection. My DC says that on shadow day that they attended together, the other kid came off as a bit rude and show-offish. This matches my impression of the kid in general, nice deep down, but can come on a bit strong. Not sure any admissions committee is going to tell the parents and the kid that he acted somewhat obnoxiously. I can’t even bring myself to mention that to the parents and I’m friends with them. I figure these disappointments happen in life and you gotta roll with it. If that kid had had a good shadow day and been in a better mood that day, perhaps my kid would have gotten pushed off the list. I don’t think anyone is entitled to a detailed explanation for why they didn’t win something.[/quote]

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