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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is the actual question faced by the Dems:

If you vote for the CR, you vote for a bill that's a corrupted version of the Biden CR (many more social service cuts esp for DC + much more money for military).  You are essentially voting to help the GOP get what they want and give them complete control - suggesting that Dems have zero power.  It's a complete a utter show of disrespect from the GOP the Dems are accepting.

BUT - if you vote to reject CR -
You vote to shut down the US govt and while essential services should still run, there's plenty of workers who will be affected.  Moreover - and the biggest legit concern is that tech speaking, while the "all" the govt is shut down, Trump + allies can make a solid case of why we can have a smaller govt.  You give him all the leverage he needs to keep the govt shut down and you give him carte blanche to develop whatever he wants as a "new" form of govt.  Effectively, you give him exactly what he's always wanted - the power to remake US govt however he wants.

So - which way do you all really want things to be?  This is not business as usual where we shut down and return to negotiate to get govt back running.  This is a matter of keeping our govt as damaged as it is or shuttering what we have today as it will be replaced by the Trump govt in full capacity once he's gotten rid of this damaged one, but still one run by 2 parties and a "legit" one.[/quote]

You do realize that Trump can (and is) do this anyway, right? In some cases they’re doing it illegally (USAID) but he can’t just decide to reopen some offices/agencies. Congress has to fund them. The executive branch can reorganize, but to do it legally, Congress would have to approve it. The things y’all are afraid Trump won’t reopen, he will just close later if he wants to. Departments turned in plans this week to reduce workforce - ED was ahead of the curve but there will be massive cuts and reorganization everywhere. There was no win for Dems here but this CR is the bigger loss. It gives credibility to Trump dismantling the government. [/quote]

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