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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Well, my family's income is well over twice what it would take to get food stamps, so it makes sense that we would pay twice as much for tickets. If I was ever to become impoverished, and had to budget as hard as people on food stamps do, I'm pretty sure that the $100 once in a while we spend on tickets would be pretty close to most of my family's unobligated spending money for the month. So, I don't begrudge the decrease.[/quote] Congratulations. You must feel very good about yourself. Government fines and punishments should be the same for everyone. [/quote] I don’t know why you fail to understand that a $100 punishment is equivalent to a $1000 punishment for someone who makes 10 times more. The point is to feel the weight of the punishment. Someone who is making a million is not going to feel punished with a $100 the same way that someone making $30,000 a year. It’s like saying everyone gets 10 years in prison no matter the crime. [/quote] I don't know why you don't understand that a government punishment should be the same for everyone.[/quote] I do, which is why I applaud this. Punish people equally. A poor person is going to feel a $100 a lot worse than you will. So punishment achieved. You will pay it and not think anything about it. Do you always make circular arguments by simply repeating the same?[/quote] You don't seem to know what the word "equally" means. Equal justice under the law is an important core concept and not something we should be throwing away.[/quote] Please enlighten us then. You think that a $100 ticket punishes a man making 30K a year equally as it does a man making 800K? [/quote] This isn't a difficult concept. Same crime equals same fine. For everybody. You are demanding equity not equality. [/quote] Apparently it IS a very difficult concept since you don't get it at all. If the point is punishment, then it should be felt the same way by everyone. [/quote] It does seem very difficult for you to understand. [b]Justice is supposed to be blind and equal.[/b] Government is supposed to treat people the same. [/quote] And now it finally is. That's the part that YOU don't get.[/quote] No it isn't. What you aggressively defend is, by definition, neither blind nor equal. Just because you are getting ever more angry does not change that fact that having different punishments for the same transgression based on the transgressors individual characteristics is inherently unequal.[/quote] I know that rage baiting is what people with low intelligence do, but I'm not getting more angry or angry at all. You're the only one getting angry by not being able to support anything you're saying with facts. [/quote] You seem to have a problem with reality. Your aggressiveness is clear as day to anyone who reads this. The simple fact is that setting the amount of a fine to be dependent on an individual's personal characteristics instead of the act committed is inherently NOT equal. Should prison sentences be based on the age of the perpetrator or the crime committed? Because according to your aggressive logic old people should get shorter sentences than young people because it impacts them more.[/quote]
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