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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Non-DMV selective private:

--Top 10% or high stats + hook: HYP+ Columbia + Penn (Wharton), Duke
--High stats, missing national level ECs or hook: Northwestern, Brown, Penn, Dartmouth, Williams
—national ECs (stats irrelevant): Stanford; (and sometimes) Duke
--High stats + normal ECs OR some flaw on their record (like a bad grade or two) and hook - Cornell, Chicago, Rice, Vanderbilt, Amherst, Georgetown
--Mid stats + no hook - [b]Michigan; UCLA; Cal; WashU; Emory[/b] [/quote]

Impressive for mid stats IMO![/quote]

I wouldn’t buy what OP is selling. At our magnet, top 10% are going to multiple "tiers" on this list.  Kids, top 10% with national awards in at Brown, Northwestern and Dartmouth. These are not 2nd or 3rd "tier. " Such a weird waste of time.[/quote]

Of course there are nuances. A couple years ago there was a kid at our school so desirable they could have gone anywhere (I can't give specifics, it would totally out them). Kid chose Brown for ED. We joked that the AO who saw the application probably cried with joy.[/quote]

I agree with this. Plus the desirability of Harvard /Columbia has faded significantly the past few years.[/quote]

Agree. Today, the very top students are more likely to choose Duke and Brown over Harvard and Columbia. Things aren't as hierarchical as people assume. There aren't rigid tiers. Maybe MIT and Stanford, but everything else is very variable. This generation of students - to their credit - is far more mindful of fit than prior classes. [/quote]

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