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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]i'm cisgender and in no way consider being called cisgender offensive.  It's like being called heterosexual, which I also don't think is offensive.[/quote]

Okay, but you don’t get to speak for everyone. I’m a registered Democrat who voted for Harris, and I find the word profoundly offensive. Why? Because it is, in my view, a religious slur. I am not part of and do not believe in gender ideology, and I do not want to adopt its religious tenets, nor do I want to be referred to using the derogatory term that adherents use for non-believers. There are many terms that religious groups use to insult (and provoke violence against) outsiders. I am not going to repeat the most vile of them here, but consider how the term “infidel” is used by some religious groups. “Cisgender” is just another version of “infidel.”

And the point is that even if you disagree with me completely, as is your right, there are many people—many of whom did not and would never vote for Trump—who consider the term cisgender to be extremely and deeply offensive. So, why is it acceptable to keep using the term? [/quote]

....You are this disturbed at being called "cis"?  Amazing.  Would you be ok with "not trans"?[/quote]

Why is this so hard for you? Cis is a slur and is used as one. “Not trans” is descriptive language inasmuch as “not Catholic” is descriptive, in both cases not being slurs. Therefore, using cis is not okay, while saying “not trans” is okay.[/quote]

I see "cis" in the same category as "white", which by itself is just descriptive.  It's not a slur.[/quote]

Okay? And I disagree completely, and consider it a profoundly offensive slur.

And now that you know many women find it offensive, you’ll stop using it, right? [/quote]

Here's the thing about the whole gender ideology -- I'm so tired of the confusion between gender as in the sex someone is born with and gender as in gender identity. I think we all should ensure that when we use the term gender we are clear on whether we are talking sex or gender identity. Gender when referring to the sex you were born with -- of which there are only 2 (male/female) plus Intersex (less than 2% of population and based on scientific/medical proof). Gender when referring to Gender Identity is where the terms "cis" "trans" "non-binary" come into play.

As for the whole use of "cis" - I don't find it necessarily offensive...but rather I find it pointless and will never refer to myself as "cis". By default it should always be assumed that everyone is "cis" at birth. Should they choose to later consider themselves as a different gender identity that's perfectly fine and should be respected. But the norm -- what the majority of the population is -- should be the default and therefore the use of "cis" is irrelevant.

My concern with how the extremist left have taken over the Democrats it seems -- is their underlying goal of basically erasing all references related to "sex" and "gender identity" as if nobody is born male or female (or even intersex) -- as if there is no gender identity at birth. That is what I do have a real problem with...and more importantly the insistence that this way of thinking is the only way of thinking...that this is and should be the norm. This is the insanity. [/quote]

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