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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What's interesting is that it's only HYPS that do things this way. It's like a cartel. I'm aware that MIT, CalTech, and Notre Dame also do SCEA, but there is not much overlap with applicants. These are the only schools that do SCEA, while very other selective school does ED, which is much simpler and avoids morally ambiguous situations. It's like HYPS are determined to get America's most cutthroat, friendless, amoral, and un-empathetic high school students. It's very self-selective.  [/quote]

MIT is non-restrictive early action, so students can apply EA to MIT and ED to Penn.  I know a few kids who did so (accepted at Penn, deferred at MIT).

Caltech, Notre Dame, and Georgetown do early action, not SCEA.  Students are allowed to apply to any other schools they like so long as none requires a commitment to attend if accepted (i.e., none is ED rather than EA). I know of students who applied to all four (MIT, Caltech, Georgetown, and Notre Dame) as well as public EA (Michigan, Texas).

I know of several students who applied to [/quote]

I know several students who applied to MIT, Caltech, and Georgetown (which some of the most confident consider a safety). There are also many Notre Dame / Georgetown double applicants, and a few who applied to all four as well as Michigan and Texas (MIT as the super-reach).[/quote]

I know kids who did Princeton (or HYS etc) and also Michigan, SUNY, Texas, WI, McGill, Oxford, LSE, etc. It's not very different from kids who do Georgetown/ND and publics. Or MIT/Caltech and publics.

SCEA isn't a lot more restrictive than REA.

I used to dislike all restrictive EA programs which I think give nothing to the student and everything for the school. (there's no bump almost anywhere for REA) But now - with some of these schools getting 10s of thousands of early apps - I consider the EA program at a lot of schools unreliable. Too many apps, not enough time to consider, a lot of deferrals simply because of volume. What used to provide students some early piece of mind is now just adding stress. That system is not holding.

Also, I see a lot of early apps and regular apps and the regular ones are better. More time is better.

I've swung the other way and would like to see more restrictions on early. Like you can apply to one private, one OOS public and as many in-state publics as you'd like. Obviously, schools can't collaborate like this, but it would be a better system. A move back to RD is when you send most of your apps in, but you could get 2-3 in early[/quote]

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