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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't understand how most Americans don't go to college. I really don't. This country has so much opportunity if you are someone who values education and strives for a better life. I think of the fact that public schools encourage reading, that may sound trivial but public schools in the Arab world absolutely do not. And libraries are not commonly used. Just by reading a low income or low middle class child can develop skills to have a better understanding of the world. And through scholarships can get into good schools. Again with the Arab world comparison because that is what I know best--do you think a bright low income kid over there can get into a good school? Very very hard.

Americans don't realize how good they have it. And the American culture of contempt toward educated elites is part of the reason someone like Trump was able to win. I remember reading a Vance interview where he said McDonald's should hire young American men through better wages and I just rolled my eyes. Yeah sure, these hordes of young unemployed white men are dying to work at McDonald's if only they could get 15 bucks an hour. No, they want high-paying jobs being a foreman at a factory or something. And they are angry at their lawyer cousin who was smart to get out of Oklahoma or whatever and make a good life for themselves in DC or NY.[/quote]

Because they are not getting low paying McDonald's jobs. They are making $100K+/year without college.

Also, even a state school will run you $120K for 4 years and most poeple can't afford that, actually most can't afford to not work for 4 years. [/quote]

They may expect to make 100k, but the percentage of people without degrees making 100k is very low. [/quote]

What is that %? and what is the % of college educated people making 100K?[/quote]

DP but was curious so I asked chatGPT.

“The percentage of people making more than $100,000 per year varies significantly depending on educational attainment. Generally:

1.	[b]With a college degree: [/b]Studies have shown that individuals with at least a bachelor’s degree are far more likely to earn $100,000 or more annually. Recent data indicates that [b]around 30-40%[/b] of people with a bachelor’s degree or higher earn over $100,000. This percentage increases for those with advanced degrees, such as a master’s or professional degree.

2.	[b]Without a college degree:[/b] The percentage of people without a college degree making over $100,000 is considerably lower. For those with only a high school diploma, [b]typically 5-10%[/b] reach this income level. However, factors like industry, years of experience, and geographic location can also play significant roles in earnings at this level.

These percentages can vary somewhat year by year and by geographic region. The gap reflects both the earning potential associated with higher education and the career paths accessible to those with and without degrees.”[/quote]

Exactly so 70% of people go to college spend >$100K and don't even make $100K a year. That's proof enough college is not a great return on investment.[/quote]

I'm in the 70% that earns less than 100K.  I'm wondering if you think as a nurse, I'm underpaid or I should have been able to get the job without any schooling?[/quote]

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