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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What’s to know?

He’s a dead, white, male, cisgender, slave-owner.  Full stop.[/quote]

Without whom you would not live in a country that allows you this post.   If this is your contribution to the world as opposed to Jefferson, you are indeed at a full stop.  And amusing as well.[/quote]

I agree.

This trope of "died white racist guy" is so boring and unintelligent. We can appreciate Thomas Jefferson's brilliance and genius, his vision for humanity and America and the way he used his intellect to propel forward the birth of a great new nation that still stands 200 years later. We can also assess him critically for being human, flawed, and bound to the social mores of his time. He wouldn't be the first or the last person to have contradictions in his views of the world. [/quote]

He is someone who took the ideas of others and took credit for them. He essentially had good taste, not difficult when people allow you access. I get why Virginians love him for anchoring Capitol and UVA, but he isn’t a top forefather imo. Madison and Washington are far above him.[/quote]

That is not true. He was extremely bright and well educated. He read extensively and was intimately aware of the mainstream ideas of liberty vs the fear of tyrannical government as he and his fellow colonists observed take over in his motherland. He was a genius in that it took him 17 days to compile these ideas and put them on paper in a way that is simple, timeless and universal. The Declaration of Independence isn't just a rebuke against the tyrannical government of King George III but a bill of human rights for all men of all time. This is due to his creative foresight and vision. The original drafts also included a strong condemnation against slavery which he was forced to remove as everyone in the Continental Congress were slave owners and they also knew emancipation was a separate cause than their immediate goal of separation from Britain.

To belittle the Declaration of Independence is really a bit much. You can criticize his contradictions and hypocrisy all you'd like but to ignore the revolutionary impact of the idea that [b]"all men are created equal" [/b]is truly ignorant.

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Is that a joke?

It’s pure hypocrisy coming from a man who owned other people. 
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The fact that the author was a hypocrite does not diminish the value of the sentiment nor the impact that its expression had on the world.[/quote]

Of course the hypocrisy taints it.

Here we are today, still living with the impacts of that hypocrisy. 
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