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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]CAPE is not inconsequential.  It is the only widely standradized test that parents in DC have to see if their kid is working below, on, or above grade level.   It also shows where your kid stands against all other kids in the city.

Now let me preface this by saying kids in DC are doing very poorly academically so the bar is not high with comparisons.  It would be much better if DC used a standardized test that many other states used so you can get at least a better sense of where your kid stands nationwide.  That would be a big eye opener to say the least, and not in a positive way either.[/quote]

It was a big eye opener for me when my kid reached high school and started taking SAT-suite tests. But not in the way you mean. My kid’s DC percentiles on the 8th grade PARCC (95th) were actually lower than their nationwide percentiles on the PSAT8/9 (99th).

The fact is that an average tells you nothing about the distribution. DC has a lot of struggling students, but it’s also very strong at the top. [/quote]

Yes, I agree that DC has a lot of kids who are very strong at the top, which is not too surprising for a city that has so many high achievers and Ivy grads coming to work here. the high is very high and the low is deeply, depressingly low. [/quote]

+1 my kid who is above 99th percentile on i-ready ELA and also on other types of tests like COGAT verbal was only high 50th percentile for his class (at a school I have seen bashed here for weak academics) with a high 4 and low to mid 80th percentile for DC. I can guess that score was dragged down by writing which is only on CAPE but that was rated as meets/exceeds, so don't quite get the difference in the national vs DC percentiles. [/quote]

I think the writing thing is pretty interesting (that otherwise strong ELA students are being caught by the writing section)... I know writing instruction really varies by school, because my kids have been at two different DCPS elementary schools, and one didn't teach writing very well and the other teaches it extremely well. [/quote]

Even then, I'd expect that writing had to be really poor (below expectations) to drag down percentiles that much.... or else DC has some very strong ELA students (per the comment that DC can be quite strong at the top) that make percentile comparisons for ELA lower than comparisons to national averages.

I wish DC used a nationally normed test. I also find the CAPE/PARCC subscore breakdown unhelpful for identifying specific weak areas. It could provide an a actual subscore rather than just "meets/exceeds expectations"

FWIW, math scores made more sense in comparison to other nationally normed assessments.[/quote]

I agree.  It defeats the entire purpose of offering a standardized test if you can't compare to different states or national statistics.[/quote]

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