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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous[b]]If your priority is to see your child experience the best of all worlds (elite education, strategic networking and preparing for graduate school and/or professional endeavors, career outcomes, and especially the overall social experience),[/b] the large public institutions like the Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, Florida, Texas, UNC and Virginia are far ahead of the one- or two-dimensional environments that define all of the privates in the Top 25.

If you’re treating your child’s college experience as essentially a trade school where they are there exclusively to train for a specific career in finance or software development or civil engineering, sure, feel free to take the WSJ rankings seriously. But if you have any interest in college being the transformative experience for your child that it often is for those who get the most from it, flagship public over private all day, every day.[/quote]
False. I have had one graduate ivy and one more than half through a t10private. Both provide the bold in spades. None of their high school classmates from fancy dc private have had anywhere near the same extent as the bolded , at UCLA and michigan. Big classes, no ability to get into labs or school-year internships early, no pay for said opportunities for the few who get them, too many competing to curry favor with the same professors in large first yr classes. [/quote]

Describe the application profile for your two kids, please. How well-rounded are they? ECs?[/quote]
Unhooked white kids with 1520 and 1560, took the hardest APs the school offered, almost entirely 5s: I have listed the non-EC because that matters first and foremost. ECs : each had a different art activity they did for over a decade with awards regional/state, each had impactful volunteering outside of school, each had at least one club president, one had substantial school and statewide academic awards, one had local/school academic honors(rare at their school). Both had LOR that they were shown later that indicated best in the year or on one case best in many years. Most of the unhooked peers at their colleges have similar resumes, some a little less,  and several friends there are even more impressive. [/quote]

Following up …

- Unhooked white kid
- Full pay
- NMSF/F
- Large public HS, consistently ranked as one of Top 100 in the U.S.
- 15 AP classes, 6 honors classes, no DE
- 13 AP exams, 12x 5, 1x 4
- Varsity team sport, 4 years at Varsity level, 3 year starter, 2x state champion, junior and senior yr. co-captain
- Head of two clubs, one related to Varsity team sport and one related to academic interests
- Member of 4 other clubs associated with academic and/or volunteer interests
- Paid job related to Varsity team sport
- Two research internships at local major research university, both in area of academic interests
- Unweighted GPA below 25 - 75th percentile range
- Weighted GPA barely within 25 - 75th percentile range
- Lastly, essays were probably viewed as “very strong” aspects of the application

Details that didn’t matter for the UCs:
- 1600 on SAT, one-and-done
- LORs and counselor report were probably average-to-good, at best, because they tend not to be very impactful in a large public H.S., especially for a male student who doesn’t shine the apple, as they say

UCLA and Michigan seek applicants out that look like that ^^^, and the environment at those schools provides a great fit for kids like mine.

Your kids sound great, and hopefully the environment in the Ivy and the environment in the other Top 10 private are at least as fulfilling for them. I just know that satisfaction at that level would not have been achievable for my kid.[/quote]

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