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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My kids have had amazing teachers who tend to be popular and well supported by parents, and terrible teachers who tend to be unpopular with students and parents. It’s like that at least in my kids’ schools. I’ve learned to be ready to jump in to supplement and—in extreme circumstances—unenroll them.

Mcps teacher pay seems generous the longer you work, so not feeling too sorry for them in that respect. [/quote]

Is it still good pay if they are working 65 hours a week? With few breaks during the school day? And little flexibility when it comes to time off?

“Generous” is quite a word to use.[/quote]
Teachers get more time off than the traditional workforce. Everyone knows this, fool. [/quote]

Me:
65 hours a week x 40 weeks = 2600 hours

My “traditional workforce” DH:
40 hours a week x 50 weeks = 2000 hours

I’m not sure how math works for you, but my “foolish” math shows me working far more than my DH.

What I know, foolish as I am, is that my full year of work is compacted into 10 packed months with limited flexibility.

But you are so much wiser than me, so I guess math works differently for you. 
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You aren’t working 65 hours per week and certainly not regularly, lying liar. [/quote]

I know it’s easier to degrade me when you think I’m lazy.

I grade essays. Stacks of them. Since I haven’t figured out magic yet, I actually have to read and comment on each one.

So, figuring 50 essays at 15 minutes each, that’s 12.5 hours of grading for that assignment alone. And I have 90 additional students turning in paragraphs for an additional 7.5 hours of grading. So that’s 20 hours of grading. I also have to plan, meet with students, email parents, attend grade level meetings, and occasionally come up for air.

And I repeat this cycle every 2-3 weeks.

So please don’t tell me about my job. If you haven’t taught, you simply don’t know. You. Don’t. Know. [/quote]
And? 
These aren’t outside of a teacher’s responsibility. 
I have to read legal documents, edit, file, re-edit often, file again. This cycle is repeated daily. Meet with clients, attend meetings, plan, travel, and occasionally come up for air. 
You are not special. [/quote]

I’m sure you have more than 45 minutes a day to do this task. After I have pointless meetings and go to the bathroom, I might get 5 minutes a day without students in my classroom to grade. On a good day. [/quote]

And you think teachers are the only employees to have pointless meetings? You’re out of touch. [/quote]

My DH has lots of pointless meetings but that is his job. It isn’t taking the place of other work. The more pointless meetings they force teachers to attend, the less time they have to plan and grade and communicate with parents. We never used to have all of these meetings. Our planning time was our own. Now we tell about the same data from week to week because someone in the central office says we need to have twice a week data meetings. [/quote]

And you don’t think this happens at other places of work? That teachers have the monopoly on worthless meetings that take up their work time hours?! You’re a fool. [/quote]

Oh good… the “fool” poster is back. Does insulting people usually work for you?

You have posted multiple times telling teachers how good they have it. Why haven’t you applied? That’s a serious question. For the time you have invested trying to convince teachers they have it good, you could have gotten your resume together.

I have three more quitting my department at the end of the year. Join us. Seriously. 
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For the time you invested trying to convince me they don’t have it good, you could have gotten your resume together. Why haven’t you applied elsewhere? That’s a serious question. [/quote]

Right now, I’m staying because I happen to be VERY GOOD at what I do. That doesn’t mean I appreciate being abused, and I tend to speak out when things are wrong.

I don’t need to leave. I need people who are ignorant of teacher working conditions to remain silent or come get some first-hand experience. [/quote]

And I am aware of teacher’s work so don’t tell me to stay silent. I made it very clear that I worked at multiple schools. You can stay silent and I can tell you to leave if you don’t like your job. [/quote]

This is an anonymous forum; therefore, you’ve made nothing “very clear.” And unless you have taught in those schools, taking the work home and being directly responsible for curricula, then do you really know?

And no, I won’t remain silent. I solve problems. The current problem is teacher shortages because of the conditions you refuse to accept as real. [/quote]

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