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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I would raise them in the USA first because, having lived abroad in many different countries, I think we have by far the best quality of life.
However, outside the US, my top personal choices would be:
Italy, France, Malaysia, England[/quote]

LOL where exactly did you live?  We’re not even CLOSE to having the best quality of life…[/quote]

Actually we do. This is such nonsense. You spiked Americans have absolutely no idea how good you have it. If the UK was a state it would be #51 in every single metric. [/quote]

WTF is a “spiked” American?

[b]And you’ve obviously never lived in a Nordic country[/b].  Most places in the US are an absolute embarrassment in comparison.  We’re still better than Canada, though, and I’ll die on that hill.[/quote]

Don’t even get me started on Nordic countries.

Incredibly high COL with low salaries 
Terrible weather 
Lack of innovation and diversity of jobs 
Rules/laws about everything 
High taxes 
*Insane mortgage debt* for income levels 
Inflexible labor market due to laws 
Everyone making roughly the same amount of money. A cleaner making not much less than an engineer.

Forced gender equality that in reality has just made life more difficult for women and easier for men. For example, women being pushed to take long parental leaves that are low paid with unavailable childcare. Women expected to have completely separate finances even if married and completely provide for themselves. Hence the parental leave since men are now not supporting women after they have children

Group think where everyone is the same and it you’re not, you’re a problem, which is why there is a lack of innovation and growth [/quote]

As I suspected, a list of complaints made by a person who has obviously never *lived* in one of these Nordic hellholes.

[b]The quality of life is AMAZING and they’re extremely kid/family friendly societies.  [/b]But they do expect their citizens to be educated and responsible members of the community, so I can see why a person such as yourself would be fearful of that.[/quote]

I don’t think the QOL is high for working moms with kids. I think it’s the same grind with less flexibility and ability to outsource.

How do you know I’ve never lived there?

Do you disagree with things like the insanely high levels of mortgage debt or inflexible labor market?

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Your list of grievances boils down to “I don’t know want to live in a society that isn’t completely divided into the haves and have-nots”.  Your complaints about the quality of life of working mothers is patently absurd, given the long parental leaves and easy access to high quality daycare and schooling.  (Newsflash: as a society, we don’t have that here.)

Just so you know, you’re still allowed to be a “kept woman” in the Nordics, which seems to be what you’re ultimately concerned about.[/quote]

NP, but you dismissing her very genuine concerns about how the labor of motherhood is distributed unequally among the genders as a byproduct of the so called egalitarianism of the nordic countries makes YOU come off misogynistic and extremely self centered. It's not a good look, and certainly not emblematic of the progressive mindset you claim to embody.  Actually it seems very backwoods, regressive, which is maybe where you're from originally[/quote]

Did you have ChatGPT produce this word salad for you?  Nothing in this paragraph makes any sense.  What point are you trying to make?  Do you think fathers should take on more of the “labor of motherhood”?  Do you know what mothers are and what fathers are?

Seriously, I’m embarrassed for you.  [/quote]

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