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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What are some ways for a stem kid to separate themselves from the thousands of other high schoolers who do research, aime, “internships”, isef, etc? [/quote]

Hard to know, but whatever it is needs to be a real interest not something contrived for admissions. "Birding" was apparently the new trend of '24, already overdone. See reddit. It was all over the place last year and mentioned in some AMAs as overdone.

Looking at it from the other end: Premed nephew at a non-ivy t12 and engineering child at a top ivy: There are many hooked students at both schools. What they both noted when the whole family got together this summer in OBX: Almost every (unhooked) stem student had at least one outside of school STEM endeavor in high school such as scientific research or a competitive summer program(not pay to play), or math/sci competitions, and[b] almost all also had a long-term non-stem intense interest or activity: debate(national level), orchestra(multiple concertmasters), dance(top summer auditioned programs), multiple singers (regional/state), poetry(published), artist(competitive summer governors school in visual art is dual majoring in engineering and design). They had all done these non-stem activities for a very long time, not just high school, and they do some version of the activity at college. Everyone came in with piles of difficult APs or IB-HL classwork[/b]. Nephew and kid remarked about it being weird to adjust to so many smart accomplished students but also stimulating in a way they had not experienced. The average student [b]despite premed and engineering courseloads is involved on campus [/b]and also spends a lot in the library. They are intense. They compared notes on culture of midterm stress yet spoke of collaboration. Listening from afar had me exhausted. [/quote]

This describes the vast majority of DD's engineering friends at her ivy. 6 of 8 came in with at least one post BC-calculus course and a slew of other stem APs to boot. They all have this "other"factor that they have done for years that seems to really matter to them. [/quote]

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