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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]DC at Cornell just went through this. Essentially hazing with the business clubs that operate as frats and seek to embarrass applicants during the "interview" round by forcing them to tell jokes until they run out or making them solve impossible brain teasers. Most of these pre-professional clubs take 5-10 members out of 250 applicants.[/quote]

Toxic, competitive and mean culture. Maybe that's why we end up with horrible Ivy people like Vance, Trump and DeSantis. [/quote]

Ask around: work colleagues have current students at Michigan, Georgetown, UVA and Chicago have all complained about club application and audition culture and huge cuts from everything IB to A Capella to Journalism clubs.  They also have many open clubs and the kids eventually figure it out and find something they like. This is not a problem exclusive to ivies, by any stretch. It is everywhere. [/quote]

I am a Michigan MBA grad.  I have enjoyed many an a capella concert there.  There are quite a few different groups. The talent is amazing and the kids have all different majors.  However, the ensembles are all of a certain size.  It makes sense.

I was in high school choir and two years of college choir. I was cut before my third year because my musicality was not up to par.  Sadly choir's a bit like sports.[/quote]

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