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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Nope. Moved to the burbs for more space.

If you don't like it, go move to DC.  Keep your urbanist mindset to yourself in the cities.

Many people do not want to live like animals in small cages jam packed into 600 sqft of living space in buildings infested with rodents, bed bugs, flees, and roaches that inevitably come with highly dense housing.  You people won't be happy until we live like rats in cage like they do in Hong Kong.  Even with all of that massive density in areas like Hing Kong, housing is still unaffordable.  Upzoning and density is not the panacea it is cracked up to be. [/quote]

I live in Hong Kong. I have previously lived in DC, northern VA, and Europe.

One of the things the YIMBY people in the US don’t get is that there are hugely different approaches to infrastructure investment, law enforcement, and general societal expectations.

Hong Kong is a ridiculously low crime city.  The subway is clean, modern, and reliable. People here would never tolerate fare jumping, petty crime, or routinely late trains.

[b]If you want people to embrace density, you need to first improve services and law enforcement.[/b][/quote]

There are cities in plenty of places in the world that are not surveilled by Electronic Big Brother.[/quote]

NP. Think you missed the point that density works in these places because they fund the services necessary to support it. In the US it’s just density, density, density, don’t worry we’ll figure out the rest later (but never do).[/quote]

There are densely-populated urban areas in places that "work" according to the PP, and there are also densely-populated urban areas in places that don't. Cities are not a newfangled trend invented by the YIMBYs, or a luxury good.

And, of course, suburbs require services just as much as cities do, [b]plus suburbs make it much more inefficient[/b] - and thus expensive - to deliver those services.[/quote]

You’d think this would be true when you look at a map and see how spread out suburbs are but cities spend much more per capita than neighboring suburbs. There seems to be no economy of scale and no fiscal benefit from compactness. Savings in not having to build bigger road networks are more than offset in other areas. [/quote]

You'd think this would be true, and it actually is true.[/quote]

You’re as confident as you are uninformed.

https://better-cities.org/community-growth-housing/contra-strong-towns/[/quote]

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