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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No. But I do enjoy looking at myself when I have a good body.

Honestly, being fit is really easy. It's just requires you to eat right and workout consistently.  It's like going to school, in which getting good grades just means you need to do your homework every day/week.

It's not hard, and I find it odd that people have such a hard time doing it consistently.  I guess this sentence makes me sound like I feel superior, but I assure you that I do not, because I don't find that being physically fit is difficult. And so I don't feel superior for doing something easy.[/quote]

+1. I’ve been physically fit my entire life, and no discipline has been needed. I’m just living life normally. I too don’t know why or even how people struggle so much that they feel like the need lots of discipline to stay physically fit, but it definitely isn’t a sign of superiority. [/quote]

+2. I’m in Finland right now, and nearly everyone I see looks physically fit. Lots of people biking, walking, swimming, etc. I find it hard to believe that this is the result of some kind of moral superiority or excess discipline. It’s just that the society here has made it easy to be physically fit. [/quote]

If you were mentally fit, you’d know that it is *significantly harder* to be physically fit in the United States than it is in many European countries.  Our lifestyles are not even close to the same.  So in Finland it might not take any effort or discipline, but HERE it absolutely does.

That being said, on a population level you’re basically making the case that their lifestyle is… what’s the word?  Superior?[/quote]

So live a lifestyle different than normal. Not all that hard.

If people bring garbage to eat at work in the break room, don’t eat it. Don’t pile on processed food during a road trip at the gas station. Actually prioritize health and activity over other conveniences. I guess that’s an inconvenience, but not all that hard in the grand scheme of things. [/quote]

Obv it is hard and that’s why the majority of the US is overweight and out of shape, with a large percentage obese and morbidly obese. [/quote]

You’re talking to a wall.  The PP was literally describing having self-discipline in an abundant junk food culture in order to make her case that it takes zero discipline.

This site seems especially full of absolute idiots lately.  Constantly contradicting themselves and they don’t get it even when you explicitly point it out to them.  Maybe it’s the influx of reddit traffic or something.[/quote]

Did you require any significant self discipline during the pandemic at the beginning not to get day drunk? Probably not.

Disagree avoiding the “temptations” of “junk food culture” requires discipline. That presupposes there is some innate drive to eat that garbage. It might be learned but it’s not like the self discipline required to not urinate anywhere you please. [/quote]

Thanks for providing evidence for the point made in the second paragraph of the post to which you replied.  Now run on back to whatever subreddit you wandered out of.[/quote]

That’s the best you have? Are you angry at the donuts that demanded you eat them? [/quote]

I rarely eat donuts.  But I like to eat donuts.  Donuts are delicious, and people leave them in the office kitchen every other day.  The reason I don’t eat them all the time is because I have… wait for it… self-discipline.

And because you’re an idiot who has apparently just crawled out from under your rock, humans absolutely DO have an innate desire to “eat that garbage”… that’s WHY the food manufacturers MAKE that garbage.

Also, please look up what self-discipline is.  It’s easy for Nordic people to be physically fit because their society has made it easy for them.  It’s also easy for Americans to be unhealthy because OUR society has made THAT easy for US.

Finally, the Finns have not always been so healthy.  But their academics and government partnered up to… you guessed it… change the ENVIRONMENT to promote healthier lifestyles.  A little light reading on the subject:
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/stare-hegsted-north-karelia-heart-disease/[/quote]

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