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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’d love to get out of D1, I can tell you that much. A couple of the teams are toxic to a degree that is hard to believe until you see it.[/quote]

Agreed. Let the 3 who have parity with each other form D1 and just rotate who swims each other twice. Let the rest of us go down.[/quote]

I’d be happy with that solution! DR and Highlands are both great teams with strong communities and terrific swimmers but it does get tiring. Tuckahoe already tried to recruit one of our top swimmers 🙄.[/quote]

How does that work with a 10 year wait list? 😉 [/quote]

It’s the Tuckahoe winter swim loophole.[/quote]

yes this is it. Tuckahoe uses a loophole where they bump people up on their list if you do winter swim. I don't go to Overlee, but have known the person who runs the list for years and a couple board members and Overlee doesn't have one of these loopholes. They stick to the list though with other teams doing this I think there have been discussions, but for now that is not the practice. It is one reason they haven't been winning in recent years I would suspect. Chesterbrook and Tuckahoe both have ways to get off the list quicker.

I'm sorry to hear there is bad behavior from the "big three" now, I did grow up going to Overlee and had a lot of fun. Happy to be at a more middle Division with my kids though as I didn't want year round swim to be a pre-req for summer fun (and also, the list is 10-11 years!)[/quote]

At a non big 3 D1 pool…..

There is no bad behavior from OLV….just a ton of team spirit which can sometimes be a bit over the top

Tuckahoe can be smug and the slapping of the water obnoxious

Chesterbrook is TERRIBLE. Think dark, skulls, mean messaging to the opposing team, etc.  Just ask anyone from OKM what they walked into week 1…it was disgusting [/quote]

Tuckahoe has them beat in that contest this year and last. Bad enough that the Div 1 coordinator has had to babysit them and an entire contingent of league officials will attend their final regular meet to “encourage decorum.” It’s truly bizarre.[/quote]

They care about winning so much that the officials just have to dock points once and they'll learn. Send one of those 3 teams to D3 or 4 and they'll all fall into line [/quote]

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