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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All of them, including Cornell, are lower rated than Berkeley and UCLA .. ?

Are people seriously choosing schools that are lower rated, and in places like Ithaca, NY, over higher rated schools in California?

USC is fine as a proxy (but without the NM pricing, more than 2x the cost), but anybody choosing NYU or especially BU over Berkeley or UCLA really isn't suitable for either of the latter schools anyway.

Consider that decision a test-out ...[/quote]

I wouldn't fixate on rankings these days. USNews dropped the ball last year. Things like class size, the qualifications of instructors, how many years it takes to graduate, and so on and so forth are no longer considered in their algorithm. What matters now are the number of Pell Grant students, which is a dumb thing to measure since the top private universities give outstanding grant-based financial aid to low income students, therefore making Pell grants unnecessary. Last year's rankings are a total fail if you really care about the quality of undergraduate education.

Personally, I don't think Berkeley and UCLA have any business on a top 20 list for undergrad. Sure, the PhDs may do some research but that's not really relevant for undergrads. And I for sure would choose lower ranked private schools like Cornell, Dartmouth, Vanderbilt, Rice, Notre Dame, Georgetown, CMU, Emory, WashU, USC, and NYU over the UC factories. Particularly for OOS.  [/quote]

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