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Reply to "To submit or not submit? That is the question…."
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]DC has taken the SAT three times. Final score is 1460 (710v, 750m). This score is between the 25th and 50th percentiles for their “reach” schools, most of which appear to have about 30-40% apply test optional. DC has great grades (3.95+ us) from an area public with high rigor; decent but not outstanding extracurricular activities. No hooks. LOCs will be fine but public school is big and doesn’t have a particularly close relationship with any teacher so we don’t expect those to be anything special. Submit scores?[/quote]Our DS is similar. Taken the test twice, has cleared 1450 (>700 on each section) but not 1500, and is done. Great grades at a well regarded private school. Solid ECs. No hooks. He's planning to submit everywhere. Unlikely to hurt him most places, might help him in some, and, regardless, he has a bunch of schools he'd be excited to attend and [b]he'd rather be dinged from some of them than feel like he snuck into wherever he ends up[/b].[/quote] How sad that your kid attaches so much of his self-worth to a test score and can’t imagine he could be valued as an applicant without it. [/quote] +1 It's insulting to say TO kids "snuck in" No, they had great grades in hard classes, ECs, recommendations, AP scores, and essays. [/quote] There’s a lot of objective data showing that the test optional kids are not doing as well as the kids who submitted scores. [/quote] There's also a lot of objective data showing the opposite. [/quote] It sounds like you have to do a regression analysis to determine what factors go into decisions to submit or not where you include factors such as - Public vs private school of your kid - their potential major - their grades - their class rank - the ranking of the specific college - the % TO that college accepts Given that most of us are not statisticians, we do need to rely on some kind of rule of thumb. It does seem like many are still relying on the "don't submit unless you are in the X% or higher"...the question is, is that still 75% like it has been? 50%? 25?[/quote]
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