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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If your kid is advanced and hasn't been accepted in to Level IV for whatever reason and if they don't get accepted even after an appeal, what is your plan? Do you plan on enrolling your child in enrichment classes or giving them challenging material to study at home? [/quote]

We'll teach DC after school by ourselves. Both parents have advance degrees. We probably will transfer to private at 6th grade.[/quote]

So you will move your child to private just as the Honors classes come into play in MS? Even though private schools have less differentiation then public schools and many of the private schools in the area have dropped AP classes?

DS was accepted into LIV with no prep. We kept him at the base school for a language immersion program. He has been in Advanced Math at his base school. He scored in the 99th percentile on the IAAT, passed his SOLs advanced every year, and has high iReadys. His school did not have LLIV when we made our decision. Between Advanced Math and LIII pull outs he has had his needs met.

If you are not at a Title 1 school, your child will have peers in the regular classroom and will be well prepared for MS and HS. Most of the kids in HS AP/IB classes were not in LIV in ES and go on to get good grades and 4’s and 5’s on AP exams.  LIV is not some magic program that is amazing and the end all be all. Title 1 schools will have a pronounced gap between the kids who were ready for school and the ones who were not. LIV gives kids who were ready and are now ahead a class that moves at the regular pace instead of one that is teaching to kids who are mainly behind.

For non-Title 1 schools, AAP is not all that special. Some parents assume that it is the path to TJ, but that is more the Advanced Math that allows kids into Algebra in 7th grade. Even before the change in admissions, it was the accelerated math that helped with TJ, not AAP as a whole. Some parents want to be able to say that their kid was accepted into AAP, it is a prestige thing. [/quote]
Honors at some middle schools is just general education. It's self-selected and full of kids that are not good students despite putting themselves in honors classes. AAP middle school curriculums at least have some gatekeeping on either scoring or executive function and keeps the rigor and depth higher.

Sure there are some MS with better Honors, but many are not good. It's almost laughable to call the curriculum honors. But then you should see the non-honors at these same schools and you realize that honors are just full of kids who want to learn or pretend to vs kids who can't be bothered to show up much at all let alone participate and complete assignments. [/quote]

And yet the honors students end up in AP/IB classes with the AAP kids and are indistinguishable to the TEachers. THose honors students earn 4s and 5s on their AP exams and with similar college opportunities to their AAP peers.

We choose LI for our kid so he would have additional challenges in ES. We are happy that he landed in Advanced Math because we appreciate the challenge that the class brings him. AAP classes can offer a more challenging curriculum but that is probably more important at a low SES school where there is a larger educational divide then at a higher SES school where there is less of a divide. In the long run, ie HS, there is no real difference.

AAP is not that special. I understand looking into it, obviously we did. DS was accepted and we deferred. We are activating it next year. We know people who are not activating it and their kids will take all Honors. And they are all going to end up in the same classes in HS. We are glad that he has the choice but would be fine if he didn't have the choice because we know his peer group and his MS and his HS. [/quote]

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