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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Eat healthy. Exercise. Done. [/quote]

Yup.  This trend of salivating for drugs instead of just doing what you’re supposed to be doing is bonkers.[/quote]

NP. Americans are lazy. They consume high amount of carbs, sugar and calories. They have high cholesterol, pre diabetes or diabetes, but at the same time want to stay thin. Lol [/quote]

That "lol" at the end really conveyed your point  :roll:  :roll:

Presumably you are thin, healthy and smart, so why are you on this thread? Oh I know, because you're just nasty and jealous.[/quote]

Jealous of what? OP coveting a drug to change their biochemistry to promote weight loss instead of acting like a normal human was designed, which avoids the weight gain in the first place? Or jealous of the other people in this thread that think innovation should be free. I’m sure all those posters also work for free. [/quote]

Again, why are you here? Just to gloat about how perfect you are. We get it. You are sooooooooo much better than us fatties looking for a drug to fix us. Does that make you feel better? [/quote]

Its a discussion forum. You know, for discussion.

The suggestion anyone is jealous of any of this is constant, yet exceptionally dumb. Similarly, the entire post's concept reeks of entitlement. Why exactly would a novel pharaceutical that is being now being used beyond its original indication to treat a self-inflicted disease be ready available "for the rest of us" at effectively no cost? How does that make any amount of sense? Do you work for free? The answer is you don't. And, that attitude of entitlement probably landed you in whatever predicament you are in with regard to your weight and lack of self control anyways.[/quote]

Presumably, people discuss things that affect them or they have experience in. By your own admission this has ZERO bearing on your life, so why are you here if not to shit on people doing their best to lose the weight? Because you are a shit person, an anonymous keyboard warrior sticking it to us fatties on the internet trying to make yourself feel better.

Everything else you said is pure shit and you should read on about these drugs if you wish to "discuss." [/quote]

I am not the PP with whom you are responding, but I do agree this is a discussion board, and comments like “people doing their best to lose the weight” via a drug is not doing your best. It’s the easy way out. Taking care of your body is a commitment and doesn’t just magically happen with a miracle drug. [/quote]

I'll tell that to all the people who "aren't doing their best" to get rid of their cancer or to get rid of their migraines.  Perhaps they should simply "try harder".  Reality is that medications prescribed by doctors is taking good care of one's health.  I am taking Wegovy.  Because of it, I've been able to eat much healthier, eat far more vegetables, far less sweets and carbs, and control portion size.  I've also learned, with the help of a dietician how much protein helps control hunger and to add weight lifting to my routine.  The drug is far less a "miracle drug" and more of an assist to help build better habits.  We've moralized weight when it doesn't need to be that way.  Just as we've learned that alcoholism and drug addiction needs medical interventions, so does weight.  It isn't a moral issue.  But I guess if you need to think of it that way, go ahead.  It's unfortunate that harsh judgemental thinking can't be cured with medication.[/quote]

Self inflicted obesity is not in any way remotely like cancer. The victim complex here is ridiculous. I’m sure it’s the food systems fault. [/quote]

How many cancers are self inflicted by simply doing the job you do or consuming the food you eat or using the products we use? [/quote]
There is a disease concept for addiction. Many people won’t accept that it’s a disease because it’s self-inflicted. However, as addiction progresses an addict will develop medical problems and can die from them. They, then, need to be treated, because the addiction has created a sickness in the body. Some people can’t accept that it’s a disease and can’t get past that. Okay, but it’s a real problem for people personally and for society. The same with obesity. Depression and ADD/ADHD used to have the same stigma—you shouldn’t need a drug for this. I know because I listened to lots of know-it-alls who thought they could be solved by self-control, talk therapy, exercise, no sugar and other bull. That was 30 years ago.

There is a constant outcry about health care costs due of obesity (diabetes, etc.) Lets solve it then. Now we have a way to help these people but of course there is criticism because it flies in the face of long-held attitudes. In other words, if it’s self-inflicted, they don’t deserve to have medication or treatment for it. It reminds me of the concept of the “deserving victim.”

Some people do solve their problems without drugs, which is great, but many need them. You may not be the one who does but everyone is different.

I am grateful to the researchers, past and present, who look to find treatments to relieve suffering.

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