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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My 16 year old DS told me that one thing he is afraid of regarding relationships is that he'll get sent a revealing pic and then be in possession of CP.  Also doesn't want to make any first moves to avoid being accused of anything.  He said he feels more comfortable about having a relationship after he turns 18.[/quote]

He can delete an unwanted incoming message.

Rape isn't legal after 18, so he'll need to learn how to make safe moves at some point. Also, "she made the first move" is not a defense against assault. Consent can be implicitly or explicitly withdrawn at any moment. [/quote]

Do you have children? Daughters? Sons?[/quote]

Not the poster you're responding to, but I have three sons and I have talked to them a lot about consent. I'm not worried that they are going to be accused of rape.

My priority is to teach them how to be good partners to people who they recognize as their equals. I'm sure that's baffling to the incels on this thread, and to the parents who nurture their sense of grievance.[/quote]

How old are they?

You sound profoundly naive to me. I probably would have thought (never written, though, I wasn’t that obnoxious) several years ago. Now I laugh hollowly at you. [/quote]

DP. Which part is naive or funny?[/quote]

The part where she apparently believes that a lot of overly earnest talks will protect a son from a false accusation of assault and harassment. It’s just naive. I think a lot of the people in this thread who are derisively using the term “boy mom” don’t have kids in college or in their young twenties. The situation is grim.

For those of you who are derisively using the term “boy mom,” answer me this question: Let’s say a boy asks a girl out to the movies. It is clearly a date. In the middle of the movies, he stretches and places his arm around her shoulders — no other physical contact made — but does not, in the middle of the movie, stop and ask clearly and loudly “May I put my arm over your shoulder?” Prior to the movie, he did not ask ahead of time “I might put my arm around your shoulder in the movie. Do I have your permission to do so?” The girl has decided she does not want to date this boy and does not want his arm on his shoulders but makes no effort to shake the arm away.

Is this assault? Harassment? What consequences should the boy face for making unwanted physical contact?[/quote]

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