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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP here- thanks for suggestions! It is my understanding that Pitt and Penn State do not give much aid. Is this true? Stats are good -  3.8 UW 10-12 APs probably mediocre test score so not sure about submitting.

Also for the UVA, maybe Im wrong but assumed if we didn’t get into UMD, prob not in UVA and I think their tuition OOS is out of our price range. These are just my assumptions though.[/quote]

It will be VERY hard to get much aid from any state school as an out of state applicant.[/quote]

Hi OP, fellow U of M grad.  Pitt and Penn State are not interchangeable.  I have attended all 3.

If your kid likes cities and liberal arts, go Pitt.  If classic college campus and more of a social/partier/Greek go PSU (or MSU).

[b]Based on my recent travels and things I've read and heard about, look into Syracuse.[/b]  Agree with SUNY Binghamton and Minnesota.  WVU?

OOS may not be worth it financially.
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Syracuse is a private university and runs about $80k all in. [/quote]

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