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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The “dismantle AAP” crowd are privileged white parents angry that their precious snowflakes didn’t get accepted into the program.

[b]And LLIV is not Level 4. It’s a watered down version of an already watered down program that inevitably brings more children of various capabilities into a classroom and forces the teacher to teach to the bottom.[/b] The only equity achieved is that everyone loses.[/quote]

No, it's not.

I teach LLIV, and 100% of my students are center-eligible. We do not water down the curriculum by any means. My daughter is in LIV at a center (which happens to be our base school), and the curriculum has been identical between what she's done at the center and what we've done at the LLIV level.[/quote]

That’s because you have a principal and teachers doing it correctly. There are AWESOME local level 4 teachers and programs that are absolutely comparable to centers. Unfortunately, a lot of local level IV programs are not anything like this.

At a recent AAP lead meeting I sat with LL4 teachers who had kids reading at the first grade level in their fifth grade classes, as well as ELL level 2 kids. They were by necessity spending the majority of their time with those kids. (Who absolutely deserve services!! And it would be much more effective to not split the teacher’s energy and time like that!)

Also, many if not most local level 4 schools won’t have a full class— I teach at a center. Without the kids from our feeders, we would only have 8-15 eligible kids per grade level. This isn’t a huge issue IF the class is rounded out with advanced math/level 3 kids, but again, principals have a huge amount of leeway here.

I think the biggest roadblock for the county will be numbers. Getting rid of centers will seriously overcrowd some base schools and empty out some centers. My center school has lost a ton of kids— close to 200 over 10 years—  as several of our feeders also became centers or got LL4. A lot of centers are still very full.  Boundary redraws are going to be needed. [/quote]

Another solution would be to offer LLIV for All, where all students are elevated to this level and receive the enriched material. [/quote]
If everyone is advanced, no one is. I agree that they should offer the curriculum to all but still track students in different cohorts based on ability. [/quote]

Raising the bar and expectations makes everyone advanced.[/quote]

Honors for all is one proven way this has been accomplished. [/quote]
Sorry doesn’t work that way no matter how many times you say it. Honors for all is just gened with a different name.

AAP is gated and helps ensure most kids enrolled are reasonably capable of keeping up, thankfully. They are working on tearing down those gates, though. Soon, it will be gened with a different name as well.

In middle or high school, you used to have to get approval from the guidance counselor to switch into GT.[/quote]

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