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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So the ANC in 3/4G finally got around to surveying the community and it looks like us folks at the Chevy Chase Voice were better at getting our people out in force to respond.  We defeated the GGG/WABA people who tried as usual to stack the deck with outside ANC votes against the actual community's wishes.  So now the mayor will cancel this project, right?

https://anc3g.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/CCLS-Survey-Overall-Summary-Data.pdf

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I completed the survey and voted for redevelopment of the community center / library without housing.  HOWEVER, the survey didn't drill down to maybe the next level and ask if I was in favor of redevelopment with housing if that is the only way to get the community center / library redeveloped.  I am a 100% yes answer to that question as well.

The current community center / library are awful...I will agree to just about anything built on top of brand new, modern facilities if that is the only way to get those facilities.

To other posters suggesting that somehow a super majority of the community needs to agree to development, that is utter nonsense.  NOTHING would ever get built anywhere if that was a standard.  This is why zoning laws exist.[/quote]
So you completed the survey and the results didn’t agree with your opinion so there is something wrong with the methodology? This is hilarious.[/quote]

No, just that I am not alone in believing it is a binary choice.  My preference is to have a new community center / library without housing...but without a doubt my highest preference is to have a new community center / library no matter what.  If something has to be built on top in order to make it happen, then I honestly couldnt' care less what gets built on top.[/quote]

My problem is the mayor holding replacement of the library and community center hostage to giving a public asset away on lucrative terms to a favored crony developer.   That smells.[/quote]

Uh, the mayor had money in the budget 5 years ago for this, and the ANC asked her to hold off because it proposed adding the affordable housing. You have it backwards. The community asked for this and now a bunch of blue hair cranks are up in arms of basically nothing.[/quote]

Wasn’t this one of the ANCs taken over by GGW and other smart growth AstroTurf groups?[/quote]

No, it wasn't. There are actually a lot of people in Chevy Chase DC who want this to happen.[/quote]
“A lot” is still a minority of area residents.[/quote]

Pro-tip, the anti-housing folks in the survey are also a "minority".  There was not a majority opinion expressed on the redevelopment, even given the very skewed selection bias in the survey takers toward older, white, homeowners from SFH's.  Wow.[/quote]
If you’re not going to bother visiting Connecticut from Military to Western, at least look at Google Street View before posting. If anything, the survey probably over represented apartment dwellers and younger people.[/quote]

The southern boundary of the neighborhood of chevy chase DC is most commonly accepted as Nebraska ave, not Military.  The ANC 3/4G area even includes almost all of that.

There are 11,026 people who were registered voters in ANC 3/4G in 2022.
2,651 of them live in something that is described as a unit (so condo or apartment).  That's roughly 25% of the ANC.
In the survey, 6% were apartment and 4.3% were condos.  That's only 10%.  That's a huge under-representation.

Note that the boundary of ANC 3/4G does not include the couple large apartment buildings that are in between ChCh Pkwy and Nebraska, although it did before the 2022 redistricting.[/quote]
And yet the entirety of the point of all of this is about Military to Western. The immediate neighbors would be the most interested and relevant stakeholders and the survey in fact under-represents them.

But I thought the survey didn’t matter? You should make up your mind.

I think the reason why you’re so upset about it is because you’re starting to realize that you’re on the losing side of this. The zeitgeist is shifting. Your urbanist bro games of manipulating public participation processes are no longer working. And with this, whatever perceived power that you thought you had is quickly disappearing.

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I'm confused.  You're saying that only the people literally in the immediate vicinity of the community center should get a say?  So then I guess the 715 people who responded to the survey from SMD 03 and 04 should just bugger off with their east of broad branch opinions and the 767 ones from 02 and 01 should just really get bent with their east of Utah Ave -selves?  [/quote]
It’s really bizarre that you’re so fixated on this survey. Just realizing that all your Millennial urbanist buddies have moved away, or got married, made babies and left for the suburbs, leaving you in a community of octogenarians and voucher holders? Have fun with that.[/quote]

So confused.  The survey makes it seem like the community here is split around this topic.  There's not a clear majority.  [/quote]

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