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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hopefully people can see that there are unacceptable levels of both Islamophobia and antisemitism right now.  Who is the biggest victim really isn’t the point. [/quote]

As a Jew I would argue that there is a revelation from the last month and that is that anti semitism is seen as so much more acceptable as any other type of racism. People are fine with saying and doing things as they relate to Jews that they would never ever ever be ok with saying or doing about another historically persecuted race. I am 46 and I was told this in the past but never realized how true it is before. I’m not defending Israel, I’m saying the rapidity with which people are calling for Israel to disappear altogether and calling Jews white colonists, and the acceptance of that in mass protests and in language across social media - is horrifying and terrifying and it would never ever happen to another race and be acceptable [/quote]

Can you please share the comments that you are finding so harmful?

I’m half Jewish and I don’t find negative comments about Israel or even questioning its existence antisemitic.   Those comments are directed at a country. Not the religious faith/ethnicity.

I am totally on board that the world feels much less safe for Jews today than a month ago.   But I also have several dear friends from the Middle East and know they also feel less safe today too.

I don’t think either party can legitimately claim a greater fear or harm.   In fact, I think when one party claims greater pain it it harmful - it minimizes the concerns of the other which is why we are at this point today.

Can’t we break that cycle? Hate is hate.  [/quote]

To me - questioning the right of Israel to exist at all is anti semitic. It’s not ‘just a country’. It is representative of historic racism directed at Jews such that millions were killed just for being Jews. They needed a country because the hate for them was so overwhelming that they weren’t safe anywhere. That does not mean I think Gazans should be killed or that Palestinians should have fewer rights. But calling Jews - who are the same color as Palestinians and have a hugely shared history - ‘white colonists’ is horribly racist in my mind.
Side note. You’re not half Jewish. My dad is Christian and my mom is Jewish - so I’m Jewish. Same goes for you. The reason that’s important is bc in a world where ‘Jews’ are seen as a race, and handled as such, you either are one or you aren’t [/quote]

I do not think that questioning Israel’s right to existence is in itself anti-semantic.  Zionism has some really murky roots in the fact that there is research that shows was supported by Hitler, European countries and the US as a way to reject Jews from their land.  In this context, Israel can be seen as an appeasement of antisemitism.

Since my father is Jewish I get that I would be viewed by some as Jewish and therefore at as much risk as any Jew in the US.  Indeed I am more nervous about being targeted for a hate crime than I was a month ago.  But so are my middle eastern friends. And, honestly, I’m more afraid for my kids who are half white and half Indian and sometimes are mistaken for middle eastern.  My fear as a Jew doesn’t trump theirs and this insistence that it does is actually pretty dangerous in my mind.

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claiming that hitler supported zionism and conflating those who things is BEYOND the pale, and if you dont know why then read this. 
JFC
https://providencemag.com/2018/07/hitler-zionist/[/quote]

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