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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Most folks with DCUM. Do not believe in anything fun. The only fun they have is driving a sensible Prius to Trader Joe's! Of course while listening to NPR!![/quote]

:lol:  :lol:  I got my wrangler as I was tired of boring sensible SUV's.. [/quote]

PP here.  I am not pro or anti Wrangler.  I am just  [b]looking for rational, factual, supportable reasons to get one for my new driver.[/b]  Serioulsy looking.  This thread has been very helpful with that, and only a few buttheads spouting nonsense/ad hominem attacks.  Thanks for all of the responses.  [/quote]

Other than buying your new driver one for fun, there are no rational reasons.  They are expensive, have poor reliability rankings, have limited storage capacity, poor mileage and below average safety ratings.  So if you are making an informed decision and not going by anecdotal replies here, you are only buying a Jeep because its fun - and you probably enjoy the idea of your kids being very happy with you.  Seems that simple.  [/quote]

This pretty much nails it. A Jeep is a princess purchase. They're uncomfortable, unreliable, and aren't even the best 4WD at that price point. They're a canvas for a "don't tread on me" or "silly boys, girls like jeeps too" license plate frame. The storage is awful and the interior feels smaller than it should. I'd happily get rid of ours except it's paid for and we don't drive it more than a few hundred miles a month. But it's fun and that's okay. [b]Just make sure your driver understands how to get the most out of 4WD [/b]and has solid roadside assistance coverage. [/quote]

My first of two Jeeps was a 2-door wrangler sport, which I lifted and got bigger than stock all terrain tires (it was my late 20's toy second car), and it was surprisingly bad in the snow.  It would fish tail and slide around pretty easily... my second stock Jeep Rubicon did better in the snow, but still wasn't nearly as confidence inspiring as my Ford SUV was in the snow.  I always assumed the 2-door Jeeps weren't great in the snow because of their lighter weight and the short wheelbase.  I knew a couple of Jeep owners that swapped out for snow tires each winter for the same reason.  I only bring this up because I think some people assume 4WD = great in snow.  And that wasn't my experience.[/quote]

For sure! You have to know when to air down, when to use 4H vs 4L, etc. Half the cars getting towed off the sand in Corolla are Jeeps that people assumed would be great on sand. [/quote]

If you drive on sand at street pressure you should be beaten with a Hi Lift handle. [/quote]

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